weasle 1,119 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 As a young lad i tried and saw dogs,feed before work,they all would be continually,pushing out diarrhea type shits,that was enough to tell me its not a good thing,as well as if a dog had a full stomach it could be putting pressure on lungs and diaphragm. who said a full stomach ,you dont give them meat give something light,and what you said about diarrhea is aload of shit Just saying what i have seen. Quote Link to post
wee bob 2 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 As has already been said: dogs and humans are different. Dogs are designed to run on an empty stomach, and IMO although we ask our dogs to do far more work on an empty stomach than a wolf would do, I've never had a problem. Providing the dog is fit enough for the work to be done, and is fed a good diet on a daily basis, there is not need to feed before going out. Before a really hard day or night I do sometimes give a small meal of an egg beaten into a couple of spoonfuls of yoghurt, and give them electrolytes when they need it during the working hours: half a cupful to drink, no more, then a 15 minute rest before running again. Liquid is absorbed by the stomach walls within 20 minutes so there is no problem of running on a liquid filled stomach. I've seen dogs go off their legs on a hard night out (not mine) but they were either not fit enough in the first place or were being fed incorrectly. why are we that different,hundreds of years ago we only hunted when we were hungry ,but not any more,its also not natural for a dog to have 50 to a 100 runs a night,so having a light meal 2 or 3 hours before they go out can only do good.3 or 4 months ago some one turned to you for advice as they were thinking of having a malamute x grey,the advice you gave (cutting a long story short ) was to keep well away,i believe a lot of dog men ask for your advice,weve all got our own ways of doing things but if i were you i would keep your ideas to your self pots and kettles springs to mind about keeping ideas to yourself mate. 1 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,478 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 As a young lad i tried and saw dogs,feed before work,they all would be continually,pushing out diarrhea type shits,that was enough to tell me its not a good thing,as well as if a dog had a full stomach it could be putting pressure on lungs and diaphragm. who said a full stomach ,you dont give them meat give something light,and what you said about diarrhea is aload of shit diarrhea is a load of shit pricless 1 Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 As a young lad i tried and saw dogs,feed before work,they all would be continually,pushing out diarrhea type shits,that was enough to tell me its not a good thing,as well as if a dog had a full stomach it could be putting pressure on lungs and diaphragm. who said a full stomach ,you dont give them meat give something light,and what you said about diarrhea is aload of shit diarrhea is a load of shit pricless corker that one Flint..I'm still rolling about myself. Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 As a young lad i tried and saw dogs,feed before work,they all would be continually,pushing out diarrhea type shits,that was enough to tell me its not a good thing,as well as if a dog had a full stomach it could be putting pressure on lungs and diaphragm. who said a full stomach ,you dont give them meat give something light,and what you said about diarrhea is aload of shit diarrhea is a load of shit pricless :11: Quote Link to post
shushycatcher 219 Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 As has already been said: dogs and humans are different. Dogs are designed to run on an empty stomach, and IMO although we ask our dogs to do far more work on an empty stomach than a wolf would do, I've never had a problem. Providing the dog is fit enough for the work to be done, and is fed a good diet on a daily basis, there is not need to feed before going out. Before a really hard day or night I do sometimes give a small meal of an egg beaten into a couple of spoonfuls of yoghurt, and give them electrolytes when they need it during the working hours: half a cupful to drink, no more, then a 15 minute rest before running again. Liquid is absorbed by the stomach walls within 20 minutes so there is no problem of running on a liquid filled stomach. I've seen dogs go off their legs on a hard night out (not mine) but they were either not fit enough in the first place or were being fed incorrectly. why are we that different,hundreds of years ago we only hunted when we were hungry ,but not any more,its also not natural for a dog to have 50 to a 100 runs a night,so having a light meal 2 or 3 hours before they go out can only do good.3 or 4 months ago some one turned to you for advice as they were thinking of having a malamute x grey,the advice you gave (cutting a long story short ) was to keep well away,i believe a lot of dog men ask for your advice,weve all got our own ways of doing things but if i were you i would keep your ideas to your self pots and kettles springs to mind about keeping ideas to yourself mate. do you know the advice she gave some one about a breed she had never set eyes on and had no idea at all what they are like no! Quote Link to post
Guest my balls your mouth Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) That skycat women talks a lot of flowers and frolics to think she has wrote a book on this subject Edited November 23, 2010 by my balls your mouth Quote Link to post
craigyboy 1,274 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) My understanding (from Field Trial and Competitive Sled Dog people) is that a dog runs best on an empty stomach and that you want about 24hrs between it's last meal and the heavy work. To avoid Gastric Torsion aka 'bloat' (from Field Trialers and Vets), feed no later than two hours before work and no sooner than one hour after work. Never run a lurcher so I don't know if it's an apples to apples comparison. However my Bird Dogs have always run hard and well following the above rules. Pretty much every other person's Bird Dog I've seen run is spent in two hours or less. Mine go hard 5+hrs. sounds about right to me all this bollox comparing dogs to marathon runners theyre dogs ffs not humans i can see you have never seen a dog to a proper hard nights work. i can see you lack intelligence and youve no idea what your talking about never as the name trigger seemed so appropriate Edited November 23, 2010 by craigyboy Quote Link to post
craigyboy 1,274 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 As has already been said: dogs and humans are different. Dogs are designed to run on an empty stomach, and IMO although we ask our dogs to do far more work on an empty stomach than a wolf would do, I've never had a problem. Providing the dog is fit enough for the work to be done, and is fed a good diet on a daily basis, there is not need to feed before going out. Before a really hard day or night I do sometimes give a small meal of an egg beaten into a couple of spoonfuls of yoghurt, and give them electrolytes when they need it during the working hours: half a cupful to drink, no more, then a 15 minute rest before running again. Liquid is absorbed by the stomach walls within 20 minutes so there is no problem of running on a liquid filled stomach. I've seen dogs go off their legs on a hard night out (not mine) but they were either not fit enough in the first place or were being fed incorrectly. thank the lord for skycat bang on Quote Link to post
captain jack sparrow 8 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 1/4 pound of meat or scrambled egg 6 hours before they run,be careful with electrolyte,theres one you avoid gives kidney problems,MAKE SURE THE DOG IS FIT before you do run after run,give the dogs a break in between Quote Link to post
johnnie cope 33 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 feed my dogs meal and chicken mince every twelve hours 6am and 6pm.. Quote Link to post
Trigger 26 Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 My understanding (from Field Trial and Competitive Sled Dog people) is that a dog runs best on an empty stomach and that you want about 24hrs between it's last meal and the heavy work. To avoid Gastric Torsion aka 'bloat' (from Field Trialers and Vets), feed no later than two hours before work and no sooner than one hour after work. Never run a lurcher so I don't know if it's an apples to apples comparison. However my Bird Dogs have always run hard and well following the above rules. Pretty much every other person's Bird Dog I've seen run is spent in two hours or less. Mine go hard 5+hrs. sounds about right to me all this bollox comparing dogs to marathon runners theyre dogs ffs not humans i can see you have never seen a dog to a proper hard nights work. i can see you lack intelligence and youve no idea what your talking about never as the name trigger seemed so appropriate I AM RIGHT THEN. you can keep your so called intelligence. i will stick to common sense which you seem to be lacking. Quote Link to post
rabbit mad 10 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 i was told by the farm vet to feed my dog in the morning so if i go lampin the dog has an empty stomach as greyhound whippets and lurcher can twist there stomach as it is so much higher than the chest. Quote Link to post
Trigger 26 Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 i was told by the farm vet to feed my dog in the morning so if i go lampin the dog has an empty stomach as greyhound whippets and lurcher can twist there stomach as it is so much higher than the chest. the vet tells you the worst possible out come just to cover there selves. just because a vets told you something it doesnt always mean they are right. Quote Link to post
craigyboy 1,274 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 My understanding (from Field Trial and Competitive Sled Dog people) is that a dog runs best on an empty stomach and that you want about 24hrs between it's last meal and the heavy work. To avoid Gastric Torsion aka 'bloat' (from Field Trialers and Vets), feed no later than two hours before work and no sooner than one hour after work. Never run a lurcher so I don't know if it's an apples to apples comparison. However my Bird Dogs have always run hard and well following the above rules. Pretty much every other person's Bird Dog I've seen run is spent in two hours or less. Mine go hard 5+hrs. sounds about right to me all this bollox comparing dogs to marathon runners theyre dogs ffs not humans i can see you have never seen a dog to a proper hard nights work. i can see you lack intelligence and youve no idea what your talking about never as the name trigger seemed so appropriate I AM RIGHT THEN. you can keep your so called intelligence. i will stick to common sense which you seem to be lacking. listen,i aint getting into a petty argument with some know nothing keyboard hunter who doesnt know when to feed his own dogs as for intelligence and common sense,it seems to me that you couldnt pour piss out of a boot....with the instructions written on the heel, 1 Quote Link to post
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