Snifferboy 659 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Just when I thought I had it cracked, actually I thought I had it cracked a long time ago. So my bitch is nearly 8 months old and I have introduced her to livestock as much as possible first on the lead then off getting her to walk to heel and when ever she so much as looked at them I gave her a low pitch growling NO! For the past 3 months or so she has not batted an eyelid at them. I took her out for a run a minute ago on my push bike, I usually let her run free but now the nights have drawn, I like to know where she is. I let her loose to get through a gate near home and she just mooched around a bit, then wigged out tearing around the place like they do, walked across the cattle grid to a field with some new fat lambs in, and was gone! All of the time I'm shouting trying to call her back. All I could see was a vague white glow of the lambs in the distance belting around the place, couldn't get her back for ages (so it seemed) and then I probably did the worst thing and lost my rag with her. What a complete TW@!!! I know I shouldn't of scolded her when I finally got hold of her, but what else do you do? She never came straight back to me like she usually does either, wtf was that all about? So, I'm sure some of you lot have had similar experiences, what would have been your way to play it? I don't want to have to keep her on the lead all the time. And I am usually very aware of what livestock is around and keep her in check so it ain't complacency on my part I don't think. I'll look forward to hearing your views on it, Sniffer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barry lurcher 27 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 take her out again and put a long line on her about 10 to 15 metres walk her again in the sheep field she will think shes free and when she goes to bolt shout and yank that lead keep doing this till she gets the message if you dont run into sheep that often keep her involved in them walking her pased them any response from her come down like a ton of bricks good luck mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,550 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 go back to basics walking through them and stuff, she is coming up to her selective deafness stage in life lol bit like our teenage years also be carful as alot of sheep will be in lamb and a scare of a dog could caurse them to abort Quote Link to post Share on other sites
runforyourlife 361 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 She was trying it on pal. Did you hear her rag a sheep. If not she was playing(as pups do). Have you ever let her off in the dark before? The dog did need telling when you caught up with it. And tghe way you do that is up to you. A good scruffing wouldnt have gone a miss.....You have to be ready for all situTions. Get her amongst them in the daytime again... p.s. what kind of dog is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
romany52 313 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 take her out again and put a long line on her about 10 to 15 metres walk her again in the sheep field she will think shes free and when she goes to bolt shout and yank that lead keep doing this till she gets the message if you dont run into sheep that often keep her involved in them walking her pased them any response from her come down like a ton of bricks good luck mate And while your "coming down on her like a ton of bricks " blow a refs whistle as hard as you can, she will associate it with a bollocking, then eventually you can use the whistle at a distance and she will feel bollocked without even having to touch her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
romany52 313 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 She was trying it on pal. Did you hear her rag a sheep. If not she was playing(as pups do). Have you ever let her off in the dark before? The dog did need telling when you caught up with it. And tghe way you do that is up to you. A good scruffing wouldnt have gone a miss.....You have to be ready for all situTions. Get her amongst them in the daytime again... p.s. what kind of dog is it? You should never bollock a dog when it has come to you, no matter how tempting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Water Badger 26 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Had a similar thing happen and like you I just lost it lucky for me I was really close and managed to sprint in when no attention was paid to the recall he was just standing over a lamb he had run into a fence (8 months old at the time) I just saw red and gave him a proper clump instantly i wished i had not put him straight back on the lead but touch wood he has been fine since no problem like the others say just take him out on a long lead and check him if intrest is shown. I like romanys idear with the whistle. Only other idear is in a field with Rams if you have an understanding farmer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iceman001979 1,316 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 did it grab the lamps or not or just running about playing????? if it grab one then you where right to put her in her place but if she didn't a good telling off would have done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snifferboy 659 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 It was pitch black and I couldn't see her, I'm pretty certain she was just playing as she yapped at them a couple of times but even still I don't want it to happen again. I let her off in the dark quite a lot right up until a friend who I lamp with said that was the worst thing that I could do. Something about being too confident in the dark? I did see on here that you should try to avoid letting your dog "hunt up" in the dark and figured that keeping her on the lead seemed a like the right thing to start to do. I have always given her a pretty free reign. Where ever I go to work she is generally allowed to rome freely, rightly or wrongly, and again I have never had a problem with this before just put it down to having a good dog who came when called and never really left my side. Damn I am thick So back to a long lead, good idea! I will get right on that, do you think that a different lot of lambs to the ones she is used to make a difference? Different smell, size, cause it was on a different bit of land we were on today. Thanks for your input Sniffer! ps . She is a smithfield collie, beddy whippet x deerhound saluki beddy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ratattack 111 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 She was trying it on pal. Did you hear her rag a sheep. If not she was playing(as pups do). Have you ever let her off in the dark before? The dog did need telling when you caught up with it. And tghe way you do that is up to you. A good scruffing wouldnt have gone a miss.....You have to be ready for all situTions. Get her amongst them in the daytime again... p.s. what kind of dog is it? You should never bollock a dog when it has come to you, no matter how tempting. But if you have to go TO the dog then a bollocking and scruffing is defenitly required! Get it on a long lead andd try again, failing that put the dog in a pen with a hornless ram in it! I doubt it would look at another sheep again. It wasn't playing with them when chasing the sheep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodgers mum 4 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 pleased i read this,i havent had that problem yet but i know i will.I have been told every dog does do this even if its just the once.It is hard not to scold ye pups when they do something like this first thing that enters your head is F..k, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottishlass 57 Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 She was trying it on pal. Did you hear her rag a sheep. If not she was playing(as pups do). Have you ever let her off in the dark before? The dog did need telling when you caught up with it. And tghe way you do that is up to you. A good scruffing wouldnt have gone a miss.....You have to be ready for all situTions. Get her amongst them in the daytime again... p.s. what kind of dog is it? Yes the may have been playing but if the farmer had come along he would have had the right to shoot that dog playing or not,playing turns in to attcking, i would go for the long rope first thats what we do with our collies while training and if that dont work and you are at a loss try a leccie collar but must be used in the proper manner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 i take mine every week with out fail to a place wheres theres sheep,as some of the land i work you dont see sheep for weeks other wise.....theres no harm hammering it home over and over again,even thou my dogs dont bat a eyelid,ive just bought a bit of land attached to my garden ,im thinking of keeping some sheep just one or two so the dogs are brought up with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
romany52 313 Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 She was trying it on pal. Did you hear her rag a sheep. If not she was playing(as pups do). Have you ever let her off in the dark before? The dog did need telling when you caught up with it. And tghe way you do that is up to you. A good scruffing wouldnt have gone a miss.....You have to be ready for all situTions. Get her amongst them in the daytime again... p.s. what kind of dog is it? You should never bollock a dog when it has come to you, no matter how tempting. But if you have to go TO the dog then a bollocking and scruffing is defenitly required! Get it on a long lead andd try again, failing that put the dog in a pen with a hornless ram in it! I doubt it would look at another sheep again. It wasn't playing with them when chasing the sheep The lad said the dog came to him, hence no bollocking should have been given, and the ram thing don't always work, seen a dog put with a ram, with horns, get a right hammering, it pulled a ewe down on the way home ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
runforyourlife 361 Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 She was trying it on pal. Did you hear her rag a sheep. If not she was playing(as pups do). Have you ever let her off in the dark before? The dog did need telling when you caught up with it. And tghe way you do that is up to you. A good scruffing wouldnt have gone a miss.....You have to be ready for all situTions. Get her amongst them in the daytime again... p.s. what kind of dog is it? Yes the may have been playing but if the farmer had come along he would have had the right to shoot that dog playing or not,playing turns in to attcking, i would go for the long rope first thats what we do with our collies while training and if that dont work and you are at a loss try a leccie collar but must be used in the proper manner Alurcher isnt a collie, a lurcher is a hunting dog, a collie a herding dog... my father has had collies all his life.... Any farmer will tell you that one of the biggest sheep killer is as working collie... turn your back on them, and they will be off... most farm collies are chained to there kennels. lurchers arent... How many lurchers have you stock broken... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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