snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 good read lads and a good discusion but ive learnt fook all ididnt already no .... ..and would still buy a dog with proven sire and dam ... less risk the better... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zap 4 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 this has been a great thread with no slagging just each putting there piont across ,may this be the start of some good ones in 2007 all the best you guys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Mears 272 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 not even from my postes took me quite a long time to get it into my head and study it at school lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
axle 63 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Right get this.......the one word that is missing. It matters not a jot how good your dogs are if they are not PREPOTENT they wont produce like wise. Hence some dogs are more PREPOTENT than others and are then capable of producing better than themselves. Top studs/broods are not always the best workers. spot on,ive bred off the best dog i've ever seen and it as never produced a good pup,and the best dog i've had is off a bull that was owned by a pot head that had never shown any aggression or seen any work(the bull i mean lol) and a failed track greyhound.strange world is the dog world. The golden question is How do you know ? You can have a litter of 6 pups, 3 will be great 3 will be just average. The three great ones get bred from but produce crap and the 3 average ones get bred from and produce world beaters, sometimes talent can miss a generation only to be shown up in the next generation from the least likely. If you keep a tight line of dogs it can be possible to see early characteristics in pups that you have seen from previous litters and have a fair idea what may be to come from the pups. When you outcross you really don't have a clue what may turn up. Then you have the other problem of people, you can give one man a dog and it will realise it's full potential, give it to another man and the dog is ruined......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 good read lads and a good discusion but ive learnt fook all ididnt already no .... ..and would still buy a dog with proven sire and dam ... less risk the better... Ignorance is bliss......as they say. bliss sounds good to me.. but ill stick to what i say ... its getting good HBG would you agree.???. Right get this.......the one word that is missing. It matters not a jot how good your dogs are if they are not PREPOTENT they wont produce like wise. Hence some dogs are more PREPOTENT than others and are then capable of producing better than themselves. Top studs/broods are not always the best workers. spot on,ive bred off the best dog i've ever seen and it as never produced a good pup,and the best dog i've had is off a bull that was owned by a pot head that had never shown any aggression or seen any work(the bull i mean lol) and a failed track greyhound.strange world is the dog world. The golden question is How do you know ? You can have a litter of 6 pups, 3 will be great 3 will be just average. The three great ones get bred from but produce crap and the 3 average ones get bred from and produce world beaters, sometimes talent can miss a generation only to be shown up in the next generation from the least likely. If you keep a tight line of dogs it can be possible to see early characteristics in pups that you have seen from previous litters and have a fair idea what may be to come from the pups. When you outcross you really don't have a clue what may turn up. Then you have the other problem of people, you can give one man a dog and it will realise it's full potential, give it to another man and the dog is ruined......... your right pal you dont no nobbody does you just have a good idear and trust your instincts and put everthing into it you no and keep your fingers crossed and you might get a very decent dog... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HBG 350 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Right get this.......the one word that is missing. It matters not a jot how good your dogs are if they are not PREPOTENT they wont produce like wise. Hence some dogs are more PREPOTENT than others and are then capable of producing better than themselves. Top studs/broods are not always the best workers. spot on,ive bred off the best dog i've ever seen and it as never produced a good pup,and the best dog i've had is off a bull that was owned by a pot head that had never shown any aggression or seen any work(the bull i mean lol) and a failed track greyhound.strange world is the dog world. Then you have the other problem of people, you can give one man a dog and it will realise it's full potential, give it to another man and the dog is ruined......... thats the biggest problem i think Quote Link to post Share on other sites
No messin 2 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 (edited) Right get this.......the one word that is missing. It matters not a jot how good your dogs are if they are not PREPOTENT they wont produce like wise. Hence some dogs are more PREPOTENT than others and are then capable of producing better than themselves. Top studs/broods are not always the best workers. spot on,ive bred off the best dog i've ever seen and it as never produced a good pup,and the best dog i've had is off a bull that was owned by a pot head that had never shown any aggression or seen any work(the bull i mean lol) and a failed track greyhound.strange world is the dog world. Then you have the other problem of people, you can give one man a dog and it will realise it's full potential, give it to another man and the dog is ruined......... thats the biggest problem i think Always been the big question, nature or nurture Edited January 1, 2007 by No messin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 16 months old and you want to breed him ? one word for you springs to mind IDIOT . f****n hell the creature has not had time to jack yet . Get out and walk it a bit more as well becuase it looks like its done dont get out . All you pricks telling him to breed it are just as bad . f****n dreamers .calm down pal nobody has told him to breed it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 16 months old and you want to breed him ? one word for you springs to mind IDIOT . f****n hell the creature has not had time to jack yet . Get out and walk it a bit more as well becuase it looks like its done dont get out . All you pricks telling him to breed it are just as bad . f****n dreamers .calm down pal nobody has told him to breed it . we were saying the same as you just in a milder manner... ... i knew it would get better........you beat a good hearty discusion.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest toad Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 16 months old and you want to breed him ? one word for you springs to mind IDIOT . f****n hell the creature has not had time to jack yet . Get out and walk it a bit more as well becuase it looks like its done dont get out . All you pricks telling him to breed it are just as bad . f****n dreamers .calm down pal nobody has told him to breed it . we were saying the same as you just in a milder manner... ... i knew it would get better........you beat a good hearty discusion.... ow s,dog its the first time i would be breeding lurchers, just everyone thats seen him on was amazed with him. and yes he is over wait at the minute , but watch this space and u will all seen what i mean about this dog. and i have not put him on to be slagged, i was just lookin for some advice, off some genuine people.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 I DONT THINK PEOPLE ARE SLAGING YOUR DOG OF MATE ..QUITE THE OPPOSITE .ITS A FINE LOOKING ANIMAL IT NEEDS A BIT OF WEIGHT OFF BUT THATS EASLY SOLVED WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS GIVE IT AT LEAST ANOTHER SEASON PAL THATS MY ADVICE NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE IS NOW ANOTHER SEASON IN THE RIGHT HANDS HE WILL BE A LOT BETTER BEST OF LUCK WITH HIM... :thumbs-up: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Mears 272 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 still at it snoopdog fair play i got bored 2 hrs ago lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 WHAT HIS BREEDING TOAD DO YOU NO THE LINES ??? AND WHAT % OF BULL IS IN HIM IS IT FIRST CROSS... still at it snoopdog fair play i got bored 2 hrs ago lol IVE HAD A GOOD CHAT MATE FAIRLY INTERESTING REALLY ..AND I PMSL WHEN THE MUTS NUTS ADDED HIS BIT... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FastDogz 155 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 WHAT HIS BREEDING TOAD DO YOU NO THE LINES ??? AND WHAT % OF BULL IS IN HIM IS IT FIRST CROSS... Bless him - Ya dont give up do you Duracell bunny or what ? *also got bored hours ago* Although if i was buying a pup i woould like to think the parents had a couple of season to prove themselves Each to there own like.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 ITS BEEN A LAUGH FASTDOGS ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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