new spring for gun

[kx100 66]

well today i went and got a new spring for my gun its a ox mainspring for my weebly ags but my uncel and brother need 2 new springs one gor mu uncels diana G69 but whe dont lnow what spring it needs as wee donnt know the size can anyone helf ? also my brother needs a newe spring for his stoger x20 as its only fireing out 8.8 just now but the springs dont have his gun on the back were its says what guns it will fit can any one help?

[andyfr1968 772]

I've had a bit of a Google and I can't find much on either except advertiseing blerb for the Stoger but don't despair...

 

Pretty much every springer built within the past 30 or so years use one of about 9 different specs of spring, so the ones you need will be the same as something else so if you can get them out and take them to a good gun shop, they should be able to match them up with something of the same spec.

 

Good luck!!

 

Cheers.

[pianoman 3,587]

H there kx100

Well mate, if the back of the package of an Ox spring does not list a rifle you have, it's safe to assume it won't suitably fit. In practice, Ox springs are a bloody awful gunspring in a lot of cases. For your Uncle's Diana G69 (not a Diana spring rifle I'm familiar with to be honest) I suggest you get in touch with a company called RUAG AMMOTECH who are Diana's UK importers and distributors. They will advise you exactly on the spring you need and may even be able to supply it, or tell you where to go for one. Same advice for your brother's Stoeger X20 rifle. I don't shoot with those rifles so, you need to find out who the UK importers for these rifles is and ask their advice. They too will put you intouch with where to get a proper spring or take the rifle

 

ATB

 

Simon

Edited November 14, 2010 by pianoman

[liam.airrifle 0]

i wounlnt of gone for an ox to powerfull not accuret i had one in my longbow it was all over the place i changed it for one in the shop wich they fitted my advice is go to the shop and ask

[zini 1,939]

I'm not an expert on rifle internals, infact I know nothing really apart from a little bit which is the basics plus what I've been told, I just shoot rifles but a bloke I admire and trust is called Tony Wall and he once told me that a spring cut smaller and less tensioned is better than a powerful spring. It will also in most cases make the rifle more accurate, have less recoil and can make the rifle more powerful.

 

I think sometimes people think that by sticking a monster of a spring in a rifle it makes the rifle better.

 

Yes the power probably puts the rifle close to the limit and in some cases with a Ox over the limit which is dangerous and illegal but that extra power is no good as the rifle is not accurate past 25 metres.

 

It's swings and round abouts. For me I'd sooner have a rifle that is 10.9 foot pounds but accurate out to 55 metres to within a kill zone than one at 11.9 or over in some cases that can't group in a kz further than 25 metres.

 

What's other peoples views on the power to accuracy question?

 

Back to the post, best of luck buddy and I hope that you manage to find the other parts ok.

 

Si

[pianoman 3,587]

I shoot both sub 12ft/lb and FAC rated and licenced spring rifles and have been spring air rifle shooting for over 40 years. ACCURACY IS EVERYTHING. Power is absolutely NOTHING without accuracy. And accuracy is nothing without FIELDCRAFT on the air rifle shooter's part.

 

I have a Weihrauch HW80 standard rifle and an HW80k, both .22 calibre, that both produce over 19 ft/Ibs of energy at the muzzle. I also have a tuned Air Arms TX200HC .177 on my licence that produces 16ft/lbs -all the power that a .177 pellet can really handle efficiently in the barrel. They are all extremely accurate out to 60 metres -my furthest practice range I can absolutely shoot confidently out to. I only practice at this range for one reason. ACCURATE PELLET TRAJECTORY mapping or reading through my scopes. It makes hunting at 25-35 metre ranges easier on my confidence to kill humanely fast and accurately, with every shot placed into the brain area of my quarry. It also allows me a bonus to shoot a little further should a target appear within a confident reach. I regard that moment as my reward for years of practice.

 

At a zero for rabbit hunting at 30 metres for the .22 and 35-40 metres for the .177 they are just about as perfect as you can get for reliable rabbit culling. For squirrel and rat I would set up for closer ranges. The higher power simply is used to get the pellet to the kill zone (KZ) faster at useful but, sensible hunting ranges to ensure a faster strike with less chance of a wary animal bolting fast, and thus missed, at the sound of the shot being fired, or wounded. It still requires loads, and loads, and loads of practiced shooting skills to put it all together successfully.

 

It is by no means a licence to shoot vermin at extreme ranges with guarenteed results. That's not how FAC air power works . Fieldcraft is still a vital skill. Get as close as you can; and shoot as accurately as you can

 

 

Lastly, I have a sub 12ft/lb TX200 rifle in .22 calibre. This is a beautifully sweet shooting, blisteringly accurate rifle. I can hit a one-hole group at 35 metres and misses are entirely my fault. It makes a fantastic rat and ferral pidgeon gun in confined, indoor spaces. And I can happily pot a headshot rabbit or two at 25-35 metre ranges and over.

 

I would never have this rifle tuned to FAC power it's too nicely set up as it is.

 

If power and range distance are that big a deal to you, get a .22 rimfire!

 

 

ATB

Simon

Edited November 15, 2010 by pianoman

[kx100 66]

i mainly shoot out doors but on thr odd acassion i shoot in the barns with the keeper or would it be better if i get a new gun as im getting no were with ggetting a spring i alredy have 160 and can get more if needs to be

Edited November 15, 2010 by kx100

[RAMCAM 4]

Yes the power probably puts the rifle close to the limit and in some cases with a Ox over the limit which is dangerous and illegal but that extra power is no good as the rifle is not accurate past 25 metres.

 

It's swings and round abouts. For me I'd sooner have a rifle that is 10.9 foot pounds but accurate out to 55 metres to within a kill zone than one at 11.9 or over in some cases that can't group in a kz further than 25 metres.

 

What's other peoples views on the power to accuracy question?

 

Si

 

 

Hi

 

In a hunting situation I do not see the point in going F.A.C with a .177, around 700-800 feet per second is best any higher accuracy drops. Plus there is no point in the extra over penetration. With a .22 F.A.C does appeal to me for the flatter trajectory, but I would never go over 800 feet per second.

 

Target shooting, air rifles are usually low powered due to the increased accuracy.

[pianoman 3,587]

Hi Mate

If you are having problems getting a spring for your current rifle, it might be fair to say you'll have trouble getting other spares for it too. If you need to buy a new spring rifle, go for a decent, second hand Weihrauch HW95K, HW97K -or a new one if funds permit. As I have no idea how old you are are or your build/stature, I cannot make an informed recommendation as to what would be best for you. Are you one of the young lads in the photo? Is this recent, or an old shot from years ago?!

[kx100 66]

im 15 now that photo was 4 years ago im the door looking bugger on the right hand side of the photo with the ferret box