deerhound

[heart of wales 19]

If you want a good book on deerhounds and their hybrids try the working longdog by Frank Sheardown its a great read

Stoaty

 

The dog in the photo is My Friends He came and coursed them at the Heart of Wales as a favour to me ,just wanted to show people these majestic animals turning, I have had the pleasure of seeing them work,obviously a dog of this size needs space,He use to course these on hares,all over the uk when it was legal,it wouldnt me my dog of choice on rabbits but they will pick up the odd bunny or two on the lamp on a big field,on other quarry You wont find them lacking They are very deceptive on Fox pre ban of course.

[stoaty 171]

Heart of Wales whos german shepherd was coursing seemed a mad keen dog fair play

Stoaty

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

Beautiful breed for large game in wide open spaces the working deerhounds that are owned by my friend take a while to wind up but will run on until they have their game not my choce for rabbit. recon they would handle those deer you have over there Dan, not that anyone would do that.

 

 

They might could daytime stevemac but never on the lamp. I'd have to see them consistently daytime though to be a believer.

[Saluqihounds 150]

There was a guy with 2 real workers in lauder a 10+ years ago and these took a whole heap of game for him despite there size (they were about 31-32" tts) but they fit sound looking beasts nothing like the weak slab sized dogs that we get into our shop these days.

[chartpolski 23,698]

I'd be supprised if there is any genuine working Deerhounds in this country now. I would think the Doxhope dogs were the last ones worked regularly to a good degree. That doesn't mean we shouldn't use the Deerhound in Lurcher breeding ! Look for a well bred Deerhound from working breeding, even if it hasn't worked itself, and put it to a good class Greyhound, and give the pup the best upbringing and entering you can; and you should have a decent dog !

 

Cheers.

[heart of wales 19]

Heart of Wales whos german shepherd was coursing seemed a mad keen dog fair play

Stoaty

 

Dont Know Stoaty wasnt mine,however they will hunt and course given the opportunity.

The first time I took my friend out with his Deerhound he had a dog or should I say monster dog called bad,was about Twenty Years ago on the lamp,we went out on a 2,500 acre arable farm,he watched my dogs run and catch a couple of times before we slipped him on a fox he coursed it not the quickest but he stayed till he caught it,picked it up killed it and retrieved it,suppose You couldnt ask for more,he took some holding back when the dogs were slipped of after that.I t also made him a hell of a lot keener when daytime coursing hares.

[Guest storm70]

i have and worked deerhound for 30years they will take rabbit and other qaurry but are at there best in the heather there not rabbit dogs they run well on plough but id have a think about it and they take time to mature but in right hands there very good dog my bitch is a tad small at 31inch 130pns shes great at hunting and in heather she excells most lurtchers its the right dog for the land were salukis excelled in the fens

[chartpolski 23,698]

i have and worked deerhound for 30years they will take rabbit and other qaurry but are at there best in the heather there not rabbit dogs they run well on plough but id have a think about it and they take time to mature but in right hands there very good dog my bitch is a tad small at 31inch 130pns shes great at hunting and in heather she excells most lurtchers its the right dog for the land were salukis excelled in the fens

 

If your bitch is "a tad small at 31" and 130pns, (lb's ?)," then perhaps it's an Irish Wolfhound you have, not a Scottish Deerhound !

 

Cheers.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

[shanehound 2]

i have and worked deerhound for 30years they will take rabbit and other qaurry but are at there best in the heather there not rabbit dogs they run well on plough but id have a think about it and they take time to mature but in right hands there very good dog my bitch is a tad small at 31inch 130pns shes great at hunting and in heather she excells most lurtchers its the right dog for the land were salukis excelled in the fens

 

If your bitch is "a tad small at 31" and 130pns, (lb's ?)," then perhaps it's an Irish Wolfhound you have, not a Scottish Deerhound !

 

Cheers.

defently a wolfhound i have a big working deerhound bitch 30in 83lb when fit wit doxhope on both sides and i dont keep her rabbits

[Saluqihounds 150]

I'd be supprised if there is any genuine working Deerhounds in this country now. I would think the Doxhope dogs were the last ones worked regularly to a good degree. That doesn't mean we shouldn't use the Deerhound in Lurcher breeding ! Look for a well bred Deerhound from working breeding, even if it hasn't worked itself, and put it to a good class Greyhound, and give the pup the best upbringing and entering you can; and you should have a decent dog !

 

Cheers.

 

No offense but that seems like a bit of a backward approach to breeding and the biggest reason our uk deerhound types don't match those in the US and AUS.

 

Surely better to breed deerhoundsX to deerhound X's worker to worker, if that had always been the way we would still have something of the qualities that deerhounds and greyhounds of old once had when they were all coursing hunting dogs.

 

What is the point of going to first cross time and time again when the quality of deerhounds and greyhounds for hunting gets poorer with every generation.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

No offense but that seems like a bit of a backward approach to breeding and the biggest reason our uk deerhound types don't match those in the US and AUS.

 

Surely better to breed deerhoundsX to deerhound X's worker to worker, if that had always been the way we would still have something of the qualities that deerhounds and greyhounds of old once had when they were all coursing hunting dogs.

 

What is the point of going to first cross time and time again when the quality of deerhounds and greyhounds for hunting gets poorer with every generation.

 

 

The deerhounds suck and the greyhounds suck so lets breed them together to try and get lucky. Breed a good huntin dog to a good huntin dog and you will be so far ahead. You dont need greyhound, collie, deerhound, saluki, wheaten, beddy or bulldog. Every time somebody makes a new first cross like these, they go in reverse. No amount of "hybrid vigour" can make up for the decades of breeding good dogs and culling out the shit. I see two huge problems with huntin dogs today and one is everybody keeps thinkin they can improve by making more first crosses and secondly nobody is culling the shit eaters. Instead alot of them are breeding them and making more of them. These good pups are born with it and by 6 to 8 months old you can tell which ones have it and which dont. By a 18 months old its so obvious as to be smackin you in the face but folks keep tellin themselves, "well we better give him one more try".

[chartpolski 23,698]

I'd be supprised if there is any genuine working Deerhounds in this country now. I would think the Doxhope dogs were the last ones worked regularly to a good degree. That doesn't mean we shouldn't use the Deerhound in Lurcher breeding ! Look for a well bred Deerhound from working breeding, even if it hasn't worked itself, and put it to a good class Greyhound, and give the pup the best upbringing and entering you can; and you should have a decent dog !

 

Cheers.

 

No offense but that seems like a bit of a backward approach to breeding and the biggest reason our uk deerhound types don't match those in the US and AUS.

 

Surely better to breed deerhoundsX to deerhound X's worker to worker, if that had always been the way we would still have something of the qualities that deerhounds and greyhounds of old once had when they were all coursing hunting dogs.

 

What is the point of going to first cross time and time again when the quality of deerhounds and greyhounds for hunting gets poorer with every generation.

 

 

You could be right; IF the breeders could be trusted ! I've lost count of the times a breeder had said the pups are "line bred deer/grey", and when the pup doesn't turn out as expected, the breeder says "Oh, well there was a bit of collie/saluki/whippet/whatever in there as well !!" At least with a genuine 1st cross you have a good idea what you are getting.

 

Cheers.

Edited November 15, 2010 by chartpolski

[toby1066 413]

 

The deerhounds suck and the greyhounds suck so lets breed them together to try and get lucky. Breed a good huntin dog to a good huntin dog and you will be so far ahead. You dont need greyhound, collie, deerhound, saluki, wheaten, beddy or bulldog. Every time somebody makes a new first cross like these, they go in reverse. No amount of "hybrid vigour" can make up for the decades of breeding good dogs and culling out the shit. I see two huge problems with huntin dogs today and one is everybody keeps thinkin they can improve by making more first crosses and secondly nobody is culling the shit eaters. Instead alot of them are breeding them and making more of them. These good pups are born with it and by 6 to 8 months old you can tell which ones have it and which dont. By a 18 months old its so obvious as to be smackin you in the face but folks keep tellin themselves, "well we better give him one more try".

 

well mate that has to be one of the best posts ive seen on here

[Guest deerhound hunter]

deerhoundx are good ,solid ,lurchers who give you 150% all the time ,well mine do anyway,they take rabbits day and night no probs