A day on the ranges

[brunty29cdo 5]

lol yea i guessed that.these wernt 29 either.assuming you was creden hill and not poole (trying to be carefull what i say lol).one retired 2003 as wo2 i believe so you defo crossed paths and one rta on telic same year i believe but may be out a year or too.

i played about with Esqn 21 for a little bit before joining regs.wish i stayed with it now!

[pianoman 3,587]

Matt, 5.56 will stop a 'threat' with one round if its on the 'T line' up to 200m, other than that if the 'threat' is armoured, then multiple rounds of 5.56 will do the job it was designed for:to fill up hospitals with injured.

 

SUSAT good ACOG lovely especially when it comes with the rest of the SOPMOD kit , sighes"wish i was back at it sometimes"

I much prefered my beloved 7.62mm that filled up graveyards where the enemy cannot return to kill any of us after a spell in hospital, but I was of a different generation and tactical thinking back then. As for the anti 5th column stance...Goddamm right! Our oath and our values are not diminished by a bunch of politically correct arseholes in Downing street. Who else can this nation look to in such a time of crisis?

[matt_hooks 188]

Have to say it's sad to see the feeling about people of different ethnic background. As Si says, that is the HUGE minority. Yes, it's wrong for them to come out and preach hatred and anti British sentiment, but to tar every muslim with that brush, or every Indian, or Asian, is just as wrong.

 

Also, I reckon that most of the people who are "anti-war" (which I take as meaning against our brave lads and lasses) are "British" (i.e. white British) rather than Asian or any other racial extraction.

 

The armed forces fight to protect the liberty of our nation, and part of that liberty is to say things that others might find offensive. Another part is to be able to rebut those accusations. Free speech, in all its forms, is one of the absolute cornerstones of our nation! Frankly, I think that when these "mad mullah's" come out and start preaching hatred and "Jihad" the only ones they bring down are themselves.

Ok, and the rest of their racial group, because the Sun and Mirror can't understand the complex issues, and like to simplify it as "not white = bad", and sadly a large proportion of the population actually believe what they read in the Sun! It's written down so it MUST be true, they COULDN'T lie after all, could they! Ahem, I read in the Sport the other day (in my defence I was looking at the boobs and accidentally read a few lines) that aliens had landed in a field in Essex, and had stolen the spoilers off three Escorts to stick on their spaceship. It was written down, so it MUST be true!

 

So yes, get angry about it, rebuff it with every ounce of your being, make the reasoned arguments and fight them at every step, but fight just as hard for the right for each and every one of us to be heard. But DON'T EVER say that the government should legislate against it. That is a VERY dangerous, slippery slope. Just look at the mess of gun laws! The mad mullahs would seek to restrict free speech, don't make their job any easier! And don't go down the path of "you should all go home". Most are second and third generation, they are as "British" as you or I!

 

I know some will take this the wrong way. I am NOT defending what they say. I think that to treat our armed forces with anything less than the utmost respect is an appalling act, BUT I would fight for their right to say it, as I would fight for my right to argue against it! As for people dishing out summary justice, they should be prosecuted with the full weight of the law!

[markha 99]

Matt I appreciate and can see where your thoughts lie.

 

However, as you said, not all of us will see it that way.

 

A soldier, a true soldier, a career warrior was born and knew what he was going to be, destined to be a gladiator, a warrior and defend his homeland, wherever that may be. Even when the war he fights for his politicians may be wrong, he still fights regardless and all those who spit, scream and shout at him, they will, at some point, get their just deserts in one way or another.

 

Free speech for everyone, yes, free action for religous fantaticals within in our homeland, no bloody way mate, and yes you can tar many of them with the same brush, if they agree with what their preachers say and agree with their holy war and subvert and recruit their own army from within our homeland and expect to get away with it they can think again.

 

There are large areas in the UK which are openly acknowledges as 'no go areas' for the police, for f***s sake, we cant police them as they scream out persecution against their religion, blah blah blah.

 

Live here, enjoy our health service, our big tv sets, out clothes and oh yes nike trainers! Try to play the race and religion, or the 'I cant go home because they will kill me' card with me and your going to get an earful at the small end of the scale and a bloody good hiding at the other end of the scale!

 

The secret services are fickle, understaffed and well undermanned even in our own country. They thought they could let in some of the worlds most fanatical people, and thought they would be able to keep track of them, and to learn who all their followers were in the UK, bloody got it well wrong didnt they? Now we have the problem we have, they should never have let them in in the 1st place, smug overconfident idiots, and now every part of our essential services are infiltrated, from the cleaners in our hospitals to the office staff in the pasport department, no wonder sensetive stuff keep vanishing, jees...

[pianoman 3,587]

Matt God bless you lad, spoken like a true Englishman.

 

And that's what I would fight and die with my last drop of blood to defend as a principle. And if the enemy of that ideal is a rabid Islamic fundamentalist who claims to be as British as me, well, he bloody well isn't and he's bloody well getting his arse slapped!

[Webby1 34]

I also did not see the Vid

 

but must ditto all that has been said before

 

could not have put any of it better if i tried

 

we will win

 

Dave

[zini 1,939]

I don’t think that we are all saying that everyone of them is bad Matt buddy.

 

Far from it mate as lots, probably 99.9% of them are really decent people and are proud and happy to be British and live in our country. I welcome them and embrace them with open arms.

 

We are talking about the ones that get away with preaching hatred and anti British sentiment in the open and the police protecting them instead of punishing them in some way.

 

Then in the next sentience start chirping off about being British and having British rights. What a flipping joke. You either hate being British or you don’t but being British when it suits you is mad.

 

Freedom of speech must stop somewhere surely and throwing eggs at soldiers etc as they return from war isn’t right in my book, at the very least its assault but do they get prosecuted?

 

If I was to stand in my town centre shouting off something about another religion as being bad and evil or I was to toss eggs at other people with different beliefs, what do you think the police would say and do to me?

 

Not bloody protect me I can tell you so what’s good for one is good for all and something needs to be done to stop them getting away with it and being protected by the law.

 

We can all play the British stiff upper lip and turn the other cheek but where does it get us in the end?

 

No where apart from dis respect from a very tiny minority of scum bags that know they are totally safe as nothing will be done to them.

 

Si

[brunty29cdo 5]

i am not an educated man neither is my knowledge on current affairs great but from my point of view and the view of many of my peer group(squaddies).

our general view is that our grand fathers faught the nazis because they were racists thugs,im extremely proud of how britain and the british people stood up to that fascist way of thinking that if it aint white then thier inferior.

how ever i believe that we are being taking the piss out of,its take,take, take but no giving.

i like to believe that everyone can get along but reality is they dont want to "get along" and the minority is not a minority anylonger when police cannot go into areas to police,when we cannot fly our flag or put christmas decorations up or our soldiers cannot leave camp in uniform and when this "minority" want to parade around wooten basset to pretty much piss on the coffins of all our repatriated soldiers.

i wish britain could take a stand against this behaviour and stop becoming puppets to the rest of the world.

theres enough real british muppets to deal with before even worrying about foreign ones too

[zini 1,939]

Don’t get me started about those scum bags turning up at Wooten Basset Brunty. I was there last year repatriating a friend of mine that was shot through the head by a paid Chechnyaian sniper and they turned up with their banners.

 

Protected again though of course.

 

Si

[brunty29cdo 5]

Don’t get me started about those scum bags turning up at Wooten Basset Brunty. I was there last year repatriating a friend of mine that was shot through the head by a paid Chechnyaian sniper and they turned up with their banners.

 

Protected again though of course.

 

Si

tell me about it,scum!. my father is heavily involved with a well known motorcycle gang and was there when thousands of bikers turned up there last year incase they turned up!

i wish they did that day!

im off out there next month and being an fst for 2 para for a few weeks untill 3cdobrigade rock up for the rip.im hoping there gonna wanna leave with a bang!

[markha 99]

Somewhere down the line things have gone quiet wrong in our land.

The freedom to protest peacfully regardless of what the protest is about is a great thing to have and we take it for granted, look at the current popluation protests in other countries and what their dictatorships are doing to them, they would never do that to us.

 

However to have anyone, regardless of race or religion allowed to demonstrate anywhere near the repatriation of dead British soldiers is an outrage, and thankfully it doesnt get covered in the press or there would be widespread civil unrest in every city, town and village. I know that some of those who turned up waving banners etc got a good sorting out and well done to the boys who travelled there to meter out some damn justice.

[markha 99]

Brunty, fst, artillery, now thats what I like coming donw when shouted for

[zini 1,939]

They were not in direct view of the other lads and lasses that came to pay thier respects buddy but were on the outskirts waiting as the coffin passed by.

 

I think if they were in the main town there would of been major problems that day for sure and the police wouldn’t have been able to stop it happening.

 

My mate was a signaller on a FST when he got killed mate.

 

He was trying to save a section that was pinned down by Taliban and paid other country mercenaries by calling in CAS when the sniper took him through the cheek and out the back of his head.

 

He was only 500 metres from the FOB too.

 

Best of luck when you get out there mate.

 

Keep your head down and look after your men.

 

Si

[brunty29cdo 5]

Brunty, fst, artillery, now thats what I like coming donw when shouted for

lol let it rain!

[Squirrel Shooter 5]

This is one topic NOT to get me started on.... As ex-military myself I've also had the experience of what "British"so called people can inflict yet like already said theyre willing to come to this country and more or less do what they please.

The main thing what pisses me off is that if anything is attempted to be done then were all racists

What done it for me was the open burning of the poppies by those spineless tossers so in my opinion they should have been immediately removed from the country

I'm not saying all ethnics are like this, just the ones who have no respect for the country who have the stupidity to support them....

 

Darryl

That act was so utterly disgraceful, I couldn't believe it. I'd have deported all of the perpetrators the very same day.

 

I do think it's important to acknowledge that they only represent a minority of the Muslim faith, although it is a rapidly growing minority and provisions like our government are making to allow completely independent faith schools will greatly compound this problem. I also never thought that sharia law would reach our shores - that needs to be nipped in the bud immediately. Disgraceful!