Appleseed 27 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) Johnny this is the kind of vermin I'm talking about..... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1162503/The-real-telly-tubbies-X-Factor-failures-83-stone-family-claim-simply-fat-work.html Makes me sick when I see kids out in Afghan/Iraq risking their lives for not much more than the minimum wage. Some of them not even returning home to spend the wage they get. I have every sympathy for those that are trying their hardest to find work and hopefully the new system will give them all the help and support they need. Edited November 8, 2010 by Appleseed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,477 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 It doesn't go far enough .They should be working 5 days a week one day no show no money ,Under 25 two years in the army .That would cut the dole queues and teach them some respect . Lassie gets preggers her family have to support her no free house . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
romany52 313 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 It won't make the slightest bit of difference, it's just another badly thought out idea to curry favour with the likes of yourselves. They are talking about four weeks a year, that's going to sway an employer to take on what most believe are work shy, long term no hoper's ?, no, it's just to con you lot. But if they refuse they'll lose their benefits you say , right ! they will loose their jobseekers and get income support instead, or they will just sign on the sick. It's just smoke and mirrors, they create a bogeyman for you all to hate, so they've got someone to clobber on your behalf, while you're busy looking at the scapegoats the fat cats are still taking all the cream, gullible fools ! Heil Hitler ! What would be your plan to get the work shy off benefits? My plan would be to get anyone who aint worked for a year to take any job whether they liked it or not lets face it there aint many places you couldnt get a job in 12 months ps start with the long termed slackers first If thats your plan your forgetting one thing.......say somebody got forced into taking a job with minimum wage they have to pay £100 a week rent plus gas,electric and shopping for the family I'm not a mathamatician but I can work out its not going to be enough.And who would go out and work to be worse off?Not many I bet.....its just a goverment smoke screen imo f**k them. The wife or or partner can get a job as well. Get two jobs. You can't live on the backs of people forever. Just do without the Stella, weed, Sky, Broadband PS3 etc. Life's a bitch. As for the 16yr old Vicky Pollard cumbuckets, they should be sterilized. Hiel Hitler ! If Hitler had of been in charge they would have been working long before now. Either that or they would have been taking a one way trip into a forest. Try telling the Adolf you to fat to walk to the bus stop. I'll treat you with the contempt you deserve, feck off and read your Sun ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Appleseed 27 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I prefer the Star. More tits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DUCKWING 302 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I CANNOT BELIVE THE COMMENTS FROM SOME OF THE WORKSHY FECKERS ON HERE THE FACT OF THE MATTER AS A FEW HAVE SAID ALREADY IS ........ THERE ARE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE OF DONT KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO GET UP ON A MORNING AND GET OUT TO WORK !! NO SELF ESTEEM !!! LOW - LIFES LYING IN BED TILL NOON ,..... YOUNG SINGLE MOTHERS WHOS HOUSES ARE STINKING FECKIN PITS , FULL OF CRAP ...... IDOL FAT BARSTEWARDS WHO MANAGE TO WALK TO THE LOCAL WORKINGMANS CLUB EVERY AFTERNOON AND PUT BETS ON ....... YOUNG LADS WITH NO AMBITION PAST WHERE THERE NEXT CAN IS COMING FROM ........ THE LISTS ENDLESS ....... IVE WORKED IN THE SOCIAL HOUSING GAME ALL MY LIFE AND HAVE PERSONALY SEEN 3 GENERATIONS OF SOME FAMILYS WHICH HAVE REFUSED TO WORK ! SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE !! I REGULARY HEAR ARSEHOLES AROUND THESE PARTS SAY THEY HAVE BEEN OUT ALL DAY WITH THE DOGS / FISHING ETC YET IF ASKED TO WALK A FEW MILES TO A PLACE FOR GRAFT HAVE THROWN UP THEIR HANDS IN HORROR !!!! ONE WELL KNOWN LURCHERMAN MAN UP AND DOWN THE COUNTRY ONCE SAID TO ME " IVE MADE SACRIFICES IN MY LIFE , LIKE HOLIDAYS A BETTER MOTOR ETC , ETC , SO I COULD HUNT REGULARY AND LIVE MY LIFE HOW I WANTED TO " FECKIN HELL I NEARLY BLEW A GASKET ....... THE LAZY FECKER HAS NEVER WORKED IN HIS LIFE , LIVES IN A PRIVATED RENTED HOUSE AND DRIVES A DECENT MOTOR OF A SIMILAR AGE TO MINE , AND GENERALLY SWANS ABOUT DOING WHATEVER HE WANTS ! MY ANSWER WAS SIMPLE ........ " YOU AINT MADE NO SACRIFICES ..... THE LADS SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE HAVE ....... COZ ITS THE LIKES OF US WHO ARE PAYING TO RAISE YER KIDS & FOR YOU TO BE AN IDOL , SHIFTLESS c**t ! TO A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FROM THE LADS .......... FUNNLIY ENOUGH WE AINT TALKED MUCH LATELY IMO ....... THIS DOESNT GO FAR ENOUGH ...... THEY SHOULD BE OUT PICKIN LITTER , REMOVING GRAFFITTI , CLEARING WASTE LAND , GARDENING FOR THE ELDERLY ......ETC , ETC , ETC .......AT LEAST 4 DAYS A WEEK ...... THEN .... ONE DAY AT A LOCAL COLLAGE FILLING IN APPLICATION FORMS FOR JOBS ANY REFUSALS ? ....... NO MONEY ,.... JUST TICKETS FOR A SOUP KITCHEN .... WHICH IS BEING RUN BY MORE LONG TERM DOLE WALLAS DUCKWING 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
romany52 313 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Just seen on local news , in many areas of Wales there are well over 2000 people chasing just over a 100 vacancies, Now even a fecking monkey can do the maths! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DUCKWING 302 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 SIMPLE THEN ROMANY ...... WALES SHOULD BE THE CLEANEST , BEST KEPT PLACE IN THE COUNTRY ...... TIME FOR SOME OF THE LONG TERM DOLE TO " GIVE A LITTLE BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITYS " SURELY THEY WILL BE PROUD TO ???????? DUCKWING Quote Link to post Share on other sites
romany52 313 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) SIMPLE THEN ROMANY ...... WALES SHOULD BE THE CLEANEST , BEST KEPT PLACE IN THE COUNTRY ...... TIME FOR SOME OF THE LONG TERM DOLE TO " GIVE A LITTLE BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITYS " SURELY THEY WILL BE PROUD TO ???????? DUCKWING I've always thought folk should work for their benefits mate, but they should at least get minimum wage ! Lets face it if they were working for minimum wage it wouldn't be benefits would it. Sorted ! If they can find 'em the work, they should find them the fecking wages ! Edited November 8, 2010 by romany52 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Appleseed 27 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) Just seen on local news , in many areas of Wales there are well over 2000 people chasing just over a 100 vacancies, Now even a fecking monkey can do the maths! What do you want then romany? What's your solution? The benefit system can't continue. There isn't the money. Tell me this do you work? Are you happy for your taxes to be pissed up a wall? No jobs? Bullshit. The problem is the jobs don't pay as much as the benefits that's why the system is f****d. I'd say there's plenty of work shy on here but don't have the balls to admit it. You think it's fair that people on benefits can live in houses and have lifestyles that the normal working man can only dream of? Edited November 8, 2010 by Appleseed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
romany52 313 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I've always thought folk should work for their benefits mate, but they should at least get minimum wage ! Lets face it if they were working for minimum wage it wouldn't be benefits would it. Sorted ! If they can find 'em the work, they should find them the fecking wages ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob.i 26 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 It won't make the slightest bit of difference, it's just another badly thought out idea to curry favour with the likes of yourselves. They are talking about four weeks a year, that's going to sway an employer to take on what most believe are work shy, long term no hoper's ?, no, it's just to con you lot. But if they refuse they'll lose their benefits you say , right ! they will loose their jobseekers and get income support instead, or they will just sign on the sick. It's just smoke and mirrors, they create a bogeyman for you all to hate, so they've got someone to clobber on your behalf, while you're busy looking at the scapegoats the fat cats are still taking all the cream, gullible fools ! What would be your plan to get the work shy off benefits? My plan would be to get anyone who aint worked for a year to take any job whether they liked it or not lets face it there aint many places you couldnt get a job in 12 months ps start with the long termed slackers first If thats your plan your forgetting one thing.......say somebody got forced into taking a job with minimum wage they have to pay £100 a week rent plus gas,electric and shopping for the family I'm not a mathamatician but I can work out its not going to be enough.And who would go out and work to be worse off?Not many I bet.....its just a goverment smoke screen imo f**k them. The wife or or partner can get a job as well. Get two jobs. You can't live on the backs of people forever. Just do without the Stella, weed, Sky, Broadband PS3 etc. Life's a bitch. As for the 16yr old Vicky Pollard cumbuckets, they should be sterilized. I'm not defending them I'm just stating facts thats all.........what if you have young kids pre-school they supposed to look after themselves?Or should all unemployed mens wives/partners be sterilised aswell?I think you're getting confused between unemployed people who "can't" find gainful employment with people who "don't" want a job! I worked days during the week and my mrs worked evenings and weekends not hard to do if youre game enough and dont want to be skint Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 there are ways to make work. some folk have to put in two weeks hours to get a decent wage . clamp down on greedy employers that work folk to death. to make ends meet. and share the load. earlier retirement for men/women in heavy manual labour. we are f****d by the time we are in our fifties. i would give a good twenty hours a week to give some lazy youngster a leg up. and if i was given enough to live on as a retirement. i would happily pass it on to some fat f****r. that way i could enjoy a few of my final years. out with a dog and feel like ive helped cutting down the obesity problem that is getting out of hand. national service six months for every young man or woman that are unemployed for over two years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trooperman 73 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) can you lot hear your selves going on about work shy lazy b*****ds dont forget it was not that long ago we found out the govmnt were f*****g us all over in the name of expensies or have you all forgoten that,,the govmnt brought in these things called training schemes,,gvmnt stats show that 1 in 26 of these people went on to find employment and it was not in what they retrained for we have been lied to for years by the polititions and gvnmt in this country and when you find they care more about illegals than they do their own people is it any wonder some say fuckem and go on the dole they give millions to foriegn aid than they do hospitals in this country,, the gvnmt will have you believe there is only about 2,1/2million unemployed in this country read their own stats it is more like 4 1/2 and if there is no work already for the people the councils employ how are they going to implement puting 1000snds on the streets doing the jobs the councils employ already just remember they are not all work shy wankers like some of you recon and before you ask yes i do work i service farm machinary have done since leaving the army in the mid 90s i have been to places were they have vast unemployment and it is because of theiving gvnmnts massive taxes and keeping people down trodden and our gvnmnt is no different they want to make it look like they are trying to make jobs for every one the jobs aint there fact the only thing they are interested in is keeping themselves fat and rich just look at there expensies. paul Fair comment but was nt one of the first acts David Cameron did was freeze MP's wages? Y.I.S Leeview yes mate your right but what he did not tell every one was that he ok'd his minister for the DWP wage increase by 15.000 grand a year as leaked out by another minister. paul Edited November 8, 2010 by trooperman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DUCKWING 302 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 LADS , FOR YEARS I WORKED DAYS .... UP AT 5.30 ..... AND SORTED MY STOCK FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF & WENT TO WORK CAME HOME SPENT AN HOUR WITH THE STOCK , HAD MY TEA AND THEN LOOKED AFTER THE KIDS WHILE THE MISSUS WENT AND DID AN EVENING SHIFT ......SHE GOT BACK IN AT 10 .15 pm AND BY 10 . 30 I WAS OUT WATERING THE STOCK AND DOING A FEW OTHER JOBS WITH A TORCH ROUND THE PLACE ,,,, THEN OFF OUT LAMPING AN HOUR OR SO ..... BED BY 12ish .... AND SO IT WENT ..... MOST SATURDAYS I DID FIDDLE WORK FOR EXTRA CASH DURING THE SUMMER MONTHES AND WAS DIGGING DURING THE WINTER .... THAT WENT ON FOR 7 YEARS TILL THE WIFE GOT ANOTHER JOB AND THINGS EASED IN THE MONEY DEPARTMENT ...... PRE - SCHOOL KIDS OR KIDS AT SCHOOL ISNT AN EXCUSE !!!!! WE DID NO DIFFERENT THAN BOTH SETS OF OUR PARENTS DID OR GRANDPARENTS .... HELL MY OLD GRAN WORKED TILL SHE WAS 78 AND THE WIFES GRANDA WORKED TILL 75 ! MY OLD DAD WAS A GRAFTER AND RAISED HARD WORKING LADS ....... LIKE BEGETS LIKE ....... AND WORKSHY FECKERS HAVE LAZY KIDS ...... AND SO THE CYCLE GOES TILL THE WORKSHY ARE MADE TO GET OUT OF BED AND CHANGE THEIR HABITS ........ ROMANY ...... IAM AFRAID I REALLY DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE ........ THE ARGUEMENT IS ........ WE HAVE TO CHANGE SOME OF THIS SOCIETIES VIEWS ON SOCIAL WELFARE AND GET THEM AWAY FROM THINKING THEY ARE OWED IN LIFE ........ WE DONT MIND THEM BEING ON THE WELFARE ..... OR OUT OF WORK FOR A LONG TIME .... BUT .. WE DO EXPECT THEY LOOK FOR WORK AND HELP THEIR COMMUNITYS INSTEAD OF SITTING ON AN X BOX , IN FRONT OF A TELLY , IN A WORKINGMANS ??? CLUB , ETC WHILST HARD WORKING MEN AND WOMEN WITH A BIT OF PRIDE ARE REALLY STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET ...... NOT A LOT TO ASK IS IT ???????????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
del-gue 0 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Years ago I was one of only two people who had a job in my street. I had a wife and 2 kids and a mortgage. I was out of work a few times but always found something and worked away a lot, coming home at weekends. Point is while I was at work my missus was being "advised" on how we could screw the system and claim benefits, even though we weren`t entitled to any. They were masters at it. Every duck and dive and trick in the book. I refused, as I would be the stupid b******d who would have got caught. They always screamed they were the victims and hardup...strange how they had foreign holidays and cars better than mine. If these lazy f*****s put as much effort into finding a job as they do avoiding one this country would be great again. BT. Well said duckwing!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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