big bullx doing the job single handed

[jo54 255]

if lucky you can get some racey enough 1st crosses but most are too heavy.lamping foxes is my main thing and a dog has to have speed and be well able to turn.a lot of lads dont realise how fast a fox can run and turn

 

Derek you are absolutely correct, and in our small rough fields, a fox and be gone in a second, leaving a slow dog bewildered. I think in Ireland for sure, the fast lightly built dogs, with a quick kill, are the best.

imo foxs ant that hard for a dog to get if its out far anuff its dead .................

 

:lol:

it must be horrible not getting my dogs on stuff................................ dont have that worry mate

[x38 179]

if lucky you can get some racey enough 1st crosses but most are too heavy.lamping foxes is my main thing and a dog has to have speed and be well able to turn.a lot of lads dont realise how fast a fox can run and turn

 

Derek you are absolutely correct, and in our small rough fields, a fox and be gone in a second, leaving a slow dog bewildered. I think in Ireland for sure, the fast lightly built dogs, with a quick kill, are the best.

imo foxs ant that hard for a dog to get if its out far anuff its dead .................

 

:lol:

it must be horrible not getting my dogs on stuff................................ dont have that worry mate

 

wrong post mate ...............lol

[blackpack 70]

just having a debate with my freind he saying he doesnt think a heavy bullx could catch fox pre ban of course. single handed but i think even heavy dogs find away 2 do there job evem if they aint got the speed they make up 4 it some over way. i have firstx bitch 3 genration shes not heavy but she does it on her own. so if any 1 out there has a heavy bullx that does it on there owm please put some pics up 2 prove my freind wrong cheers lads happy huntin.

 

 

And some folk seem to forget where their 3/8 5/8 and 3/4 breds come from...off decent half x,s thats where....admittedley some half x,s shouldnt be bred from but good honest halfx,s are still out there..atb stabba

 

get with the post mate ......

 

Ok, I'll get with the post, the post says 'heavy', well lets face it, no heavy (as in weight) can catch much at all. As for first crosses, well run at the right weight and they'll do the job, week in week out.

Take the Pie dog as an example, as it's blood is so frequently mentioned in your dogs make up. The pic that has been posted on here, taken in Scotland, did that look too heavy to catch foxes, he was a genuine half cross?

Well if he 'looks' capable, then i'll tell you he was capable, run at the right weight, that pic was taken when he was with one of his two owners. The other owner blew him up like a balloon, liked him all ripped an heavy, he was still capable but not in the same numbers.

I've ran half crosses for enough years to know what they are capable of, I've also ran enough foxes to know what they are capable of too, i've also owned and ran 5/8ths and 3/4 breds, the 5/8ths I rated and the 3/4's were plenty fast enough, though I never felt they'd see a 'lifetime' of foxes and pretty soon they'd spew, mine never did but i've seen enough that have.

What i do know is that big heads don't catch foxes, fast legs do, and on good, fit half crosses, them legs are plenty fast enough, week in week out.

one of the truest and best replies ive seen in a long time

[mick c 411]

ive got a collie greyhound bull greyhound racey and not much bull she catches charlie with ease nowadays and improving allthe time

[rocket ronnie 243]

bonsun 11 has probably forgot more than you'll ever know mate an as for big heavy dogs i had one that would kill foxes pre ban for fun with plenty of speed an agility its all about getting the right breed an as everyone knows you cant kill them all an not all foxes are the same an all it 's about is getting out there an getting ye dog the work it deserves

 

[taffyboi 19]

Bulldog2 you sed you had a golly bred dog and couldt catch foxes I had the pleasure in running golly he might be big but nailed me plenty of red coats. And I know of a bitch direct out of golly that don't miss much, so its obvious you'l miss a few with a big heavy bull x but they still catch there fair few. Alb taffyboi

[whippetlad1976 33]

Put a heavy bullx against a collie grey or whipxgrey i know the latter would catch more imho been there and done that.

 

Atb wl

[Trigger 26]

i think if you want a out out fox dog a racey 5/8 3/8 or a 3/4 quater bred thats just my choice.

what ever the % dont really mater, its the weight that counts. To much weight you loose agilty, my last2 bullxs were 70- 77lb. They were fast+agile, and unless you get the fox close, you will need all that agilty catch the fecker. A fox is fast and can turn like hares at times .

that just about sums the fox up. i often wonder which is the better turner the hare or the fox.

[Boss-Hog 269]

obviously a lot people on here dont know how 2 get halfx right far superier athlete

[busher 145]

just having a debate with my freind he saying he doesnt think a heavy bullx could catch fox pre ban of course. single handed but i think even heavy dogs find away 2 do there job evem if they aint got the speed they make up 4 it some over way. i have firstx bitch 3 genration shes not heavy but she does it on her own. so if any 1 out there has a heavy bullx that does it on there owm please put some pics up 2 prove my freind wrong cheers lads happy huntin.

 

 

And some folk seem to forget where their 3/8 5/8 and 3/4 breds come from...off decent half x,s thats where....admittedley some half x,s shouldnt be bred from but good honest halfx,s are still out there..atb stabba

 

get with the post mate ......

 

Ok, I'll get with the post, the post says 'heavy', well lets face it, no heavy (as in weight) can catch much at all. As for first crosses, well run at the right weight and they'll do the job, week in week out.

Take the Pie dog as an example, as it's blood is so frequently mentioned in your dogs make up. The pic that has been posted on here, taken in Scotland, did that look too heavy to catch foxes, he was a genuine half cross?

Well if he 'looks' capable, then i'll tell you he was capable, run at the right weight, that pic was taken when he was with one of his two owners. The other owner blew him up like a balloon, liked him all ripped an heavy, he was still capable but not in the same numbers.

I've ran half crosses for enough years to know what they are capable of, I've also ran enough foxes to know what they are capable of too, i've also owned and ran 5/8ths and 3/4 breds, the 5/8ths I rated and the 3/4's were plenty fast enough, though I never felt they'd see a 'lifetime' of foxes and pretty soon they'd spew, mine never did but i've seen enough that have.

What i do know is that big heads don't catch foxes, fast legs do, and on good, fit half crosses, them legs are plenty fast enough, week in week out.

well seid mate...

[busher 145]

A WELL BREED N BREED RIGHT I MEAN.... first cross is the perfict tool for the job weather lamping or digging for charlies' my mate used his own breed for years' never had to out cross um'' or add anything.. like i say get them breed right n thay take some beating...ATB..B

 

 

digging dogs yes ....the odd fox 50/50 but fox day in day out then no sorry its not happening unless is a racey one like ruby jets harf x ............

READ MY POST AGAIN.....SLOWLEY..

[dog fox 16]

i think if you want a out out fox dog a racey 5/8 3/8 or a 3/4 quater bred thats just my choice.

what ever the % dont really mater, its the weight that counts. To much weight you loose agilty, my last2 bullxs were 70- 77lb. They were fast+agile, and unless you get the fox close, you will need all that agilty catch the fecker. A fox is fast and can turn like hares at times .

that just about sums the fox up. i often wonder which is the better turner the hare or the fox.

 

i,d say the fox . and the dog has to learn his game quick, as we all know the fox is the best at pulling out all the tricks and making his get away

[Guest ryan161]

my bro has a bitch mate kills them for fun mate and biger stuff

il get sum pic up later mate

[FightTheBan 1,147]

You only get out a dog what you put into it.

 

FACT

 

Irregardless of breed type and build.

 

FTB

[ruby jet 184]

A WELL BREED N BREED RIGHT I MEAN.... first cross is the perfict tool for the job weather lamping or digging for charlies' my mate used his own breed for years' never had to out cross um'' or add anything.. like i say get them breed right n thay take some beating...ATB..B

 

 

digging dogs yes ....the odd fox 50/50 but fox day in day out then no sorry its not happening unless is a racey one like ruby jets harf x ............

this one u mean mate