ex boxer jailed for fatal punch

[stoaty 171]

did you tell him how he makes you feel stoaty.

He knows proper mate he was in school with me and was always a bully picking on the quiet kids hes a smack head now but all the same the lad had a big family expecting the guy to be found down a back alley with a bat in his head.If your a hard man pick on other hard men go bare knuckle or get in the ring and make money dont go hitting people less tough or quiet 1 thing I hate is a bully

Stoaty

Edited November 7, 2010 by stoaty

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

It's a shame the bloke ended up dying.

[stoaty 171]

Poor ferker imagine how the blokes family feel the fact its on camera for anyone to see I know its good for putting the twat away but ferk it must rip their hearts out every time they see it

Stoaty

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

aye jail sentences need to be a deterent aswell as punishment.

no deterent 4/5/6 years for killing someone.

drunk drivers who kill, c**ts like him need life sentences.

 

He was found guilty of manslaughter, he didn't intend to kill the other lad.

[readie 184]

aye jail sentences need to be a deterent aswell as punishment.

no deterent 4/5/6 years for killing someone.

drunk drivers who kill, c**ts like him need life sentences.

 

He was found guilty of manslaughter, he didn't intend to kill the other lad.

 

intending to kill or not,the lads dead so he should be charged with murder.

[night moocher 41]

That punch was thrown knowing fulwell that man wasnt going to strike back.

seen it lots of times when working the clubs.the man can strike but what would happen if the other guy would have got up and said lets go then.

he got to think on his toes then ,not just bank on one hit.

every fight in the street happens in a flurry of adrenalin lasting seconds,but like i said if that man would have been still standing and wanted to mix it ,then he got to think about it.

very sad he died it should never have happened.

[gnasher16 30,597]

Without doubt the fella was a bully with no class and no moral fibre,its easy to have a killer punch when the persons not squared up to you or in this case even looking at you !....the punches that do most damage are the ones you dont see coming.

What i find strange is why any pub/club would employ a 22 year old kid with very little life experience in a position of such responsibility,it could be said the pub/club itself is partly responsible.

The sentancing on situations like this are never reliable either,a friend of mines son was sentanced to life and is currently serving a minimum of 11 years at this moment for an almost identical thing.Gary Delaney is his name he boxed out of West Ham at British title level in the 90,s and killed a man while on a door in a similar situation to the one above the only difference is they did actually have a fight he didnt just cheap shot him while he wasnt looking,yet he got 11 years compared to the prick on the video above getting 5.....aint no sense in the sentances dished out sometimes.

[stainlee 27]

Without doubt the fella was a bully with no class and no moral fibre,its easy to have a killer punch when the persons not squared up to you or in this case even looking at you !....the punches that do most damage are the ones you dont see coming.

What i find strange is why any pub/club would employ a 22 year old kid with very little life experience in a position of such responsibility,it could be said the pub/club itself is partly responsible.

The sentancing on situations like this are never reliable either,a friend of mines son was sentanced to life and is currently serving a minimum of 11 years at this moment for an almost identical thing.Gary Delaney is his name he boxed out of West Ham at British title level in the 90,s and killed a man while on a door in a similar situation to the one above the only difference is they did actually have a fight he didnt just cheap shot him while he wasnt looking,yet he got 11 years compared to the prick on the video above getting 5.....aint no sense in the sentances dished out sometimes.

Definatly no rhyme or reason to the sentencs given out , mate of mine ,served in the forces , boxed in the Olymics , boxed as a pro , a dispute with a fella ended in tragedy ,he,s now 14 years into a life sentense with no sign of release.

[Guest underdog]

Without doubt the fella was a bully with no class and no moral fibre,its easy to have a killer punch when the persons not squared up to you or in this case even looking at you !....the punches that do most damage are the ones you dont see coming.

What i find strange is why any pub/club would employ a 22 year old kid with very little life experience in a position of such responsibility,it could be said the pub/club itself is partly responsible.

The sentancing on situations like this are never reliable either,a friend of mines son was sentanced to life and is currently serving a minimum of 11 years at this moment for an almost identical thing.Gary Delaney is his name he boxed out of West Ham at British title level in the 90,s and killed a man while on a door in a similar situation to the one above the only difference is they did actually have a fight he didnt just cheap shot him while he wasnt looking,yet he got 11 years compared to the prick on the video above getting 5.....aint no sense in the sentances dished out sometimes.

Definatly no rhyme or reason to the sentencs given out , mate of mine ,served in the forces , boxed in the Olymics , boxed as a pro , a dispute with a fella ended in tragedy ,he,s now 14 years into a life sentense with no sign of release.

 

No disrespect to your friend stainlee but thats the sentences that should be given out, just wish they were consistantly like this one.

[stainlee 27]

Without doubt the fella was a bully with no class and no moral fibre,its easy to have a killer punch when the persons not squared up to you or in this case even looking at you !....the punches that do most damage are the ones you dont see coming.

What i find strange is why any pub/club would employ a 22 year old kid with very little life experience in a position of such responsibility,it could be said the pub/club itself is partly responsible.

The sentancing on situations like this are never reliable either,a friend of mines son was sentanced to life and is currently serving a minimum of 11 years at this moment for an almost identical thing.Gary Delaney is his name he boxed out of West Ham at British title level in the 90,s and killed a man while on a door in a similar situation to the one above the only difference is they did actually have a fight he didnt just cheap shot him while he wasnt looking,yet he got 11 years compared to the prick on the video above getting 5.....aint no sense in the sentances dished out sometimes.

Definatly no rhyme or reason to the sentencs given out , mate of mine ,served in the forces , boxed in the Olymics , boxed as a pro , a dispute with a fella ended in tragedy ,he,s now 14 years into a life sentense with no sign of release.

 

No disrespect to your friend stainlee but thats the sentences that should be given out, just wish they were consistantly like this one.

I know what you mean ,but theres bullying feckers , like the one in the vid , theres cold blooded killers ,and theres people involved in fist FIGHTS that go wrong ,I,m not advocating going easy on any one found guilty of murder , but there are different circumstances that I don,t think the law as it stands takes into account.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

aye jail sentences need to be a deterent aswell as punishment.

no deterent 4/5/6 years for killing someone.

drunk drivers who kill, c**ts like him need life sentences.

 

He was found guilty of manslaughter, he didn't intend to kill the other lad.

 

oh well thats ok then.

the drunk driver doesnt intend to kill people, so i guess thats ok aswell.

 

who would of thought that if you punch a man unconscous whilst he is upright, that he may crack his head open on the concrete or tarmac he hits.

 

You need to get a grip of yourself mate, and come down off that high horse you're on. I didn't say it was OK! There's nothing OK with going round lashing out at people for no reason.

 

I was just stating the facts, he didn't intend to kill the lad and that's why he was charged and found guilty of manslaughter. What do you think, we should get rid of the manslaughter charge in this country or something?

 

Without doubt the fella was a bully with no class and no moral fibre,its easy to have a killer punch when the persons not squared up to you or in this case even looking at you !....the punches that do most damage are the ones you dont see coming.

What i find strange is why any pub/club would employ a 22 year old kid with very little life experience in a position of such responsibility,it could be said the pub/club itself is partly responsible.

The sentancing on situations like this are never reliable either,a friend of mines son was sentanced to life and is currently serving a minimum of 11 years at this moment for an almost identical thing.Gary Delaney is his name he boxed out of West Ham at British title level in the 90,s and killed a man while on a door in a similar situation to the one above the only difference is they did actually have a fight he didnt just cheap shot him while he wasnt looking,yet he got 11 years compared to the prick on the video above getting 5.....aint no sense in the sentances dished out sometimes.

 

I remember watching the Delaney brothers, Gary was the better of the two, but often didn't seem to turn up right and seemed to me like he didn't box as well as what he was capable of in some of his bouts.

 

I didn't know about him being sentenced for killing a man though? When did this happen mate?

 

It's hard for anyone to say what's fair or isn't fair without knowing exactly what happened.

[gnasher16 30,597]

I remember watching the Delaney brothers, Gary was the better of the two, but often didn't seem to turn up right and seemed to me like he didn't box as well as what he was capable of in some of his bouts.

 

I didn't know about him being sentenced for killing a man though? When did this happen mate?

 

It's hard for anyone to say what's fair or isn't fair without knowing exactly what happened.

 

 

Gary was a good boxer,not great but good enough to compete at a high level his biggest struggle was with his weight he wasnt big enough for the heavyweight division but struggled at cruiserweight......he lost to a young David Haye but did beat a few notable names.....His troubles were about 5 years ago he,s in Highpoint in Suffolk at the moment but not due for release till 2016.....in fairness Gary wasnt my cuppa tea but he certainly wasnt a murderer yet thats what he was convicted of.....To be convicted of murder " intent to kill " has to be proven....Gary hit a mans head too hard,that head then hit a concrete floor.....where the intent to kill is in that i dont know so to me theres not much thats fair about it especially when you compare it to the video on this thread.......ive said for many years now ex boxers and door work is not a good mix....but theres always going to be controversy when comparing crimes/sentancing i guess.

Edited November 7, 2010 by gnasher16

[Guest stewie]

I remember watching the Delaney brothers, Gary was the better of the two, but often didn't seem to turn up right and seemed to me like he didn't box as well as what he was capable of in some of his bouts.

 

I didn't know about him being sentenced for killing a man though? When did this happen mate?

 

It's hard for anyone to say what's fair or isn't fair without knowing exactly what happened.

 

 

Gary was a good boxer,not great but good enough to compete at a high level his biggest struggle was with his weight he wasnt big enough for the heavyweight division but struggled at cruiserweight......he lost to a young David Haye but did beat a few notable names.....His troubles were about 5 years ago he,s in Highpoint in Suffolk at the moment but not due for release till 2016.....in fairness Gary wasnt my cuppa tea but he certainly wasnt a murderer yet thats what he was convicted of.....To be convicted of murder " intent to kill " has to be proven....Gary hit a mans head too hard,that head then hit a concrete floor.....where the intent to kill is in that i dont know so to me theres not much thats fair about it especially when you compare it to the video on this thread.......ive said for many years now ex boxers and door work is not a good mix....but theres always going to be controversy when comparing crimes/sentancing i guess.

he sounds just as bad as the bully in the video to me gnasher, who should of defo got the same sentence as garry did

http://www.saddoboxing.com/3583-ex-boxing-champ-delaney-jailed-for-murder.html

[gnasher16 30,597]

If i didnt know the family id probably agree with you mate as its easy to see how it could look that way based on that article so im not trying to pull apart what your saying.Garys father is a friend from way back and like any father he went through a lot at the time this happened,nothing compared to the family who suffered the loss of course but a lot came out in the trial that would not have done if not for the fact that they were a boxing family.For a start it was tried at number 1 court of the Old Bailey !! ...it also came out that during this incident Gary was being attacked by 2 men,one was the tragic victim and another man who was a known trouble maker.As well as a guilty verdict for murder Gary also got done for gbh on the other man,so to say a man being attacked by 2 men could have " intent to murder " would certainly raise an eyebrow to most.....i still say to this day if Gary had not been an ex boxer from a known boxing family he would have been charged with manslaughter,unfortunately he was made an example of,his attitude in court didnt help him too much neither !.....all ways round it was a sad situation.

Edited November 7, 2010 by gnasher16

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

seems like this is an all too familiar occurance i know an ex boxer that got done for manslaughter when he hit someone that died but the guy hit him first it was one of them like someone tries to get a name for themselves by beating up one of the boxers but ended badly for both even though he only got 2 years its hard to judge as he not the type to go round bullying looking for trouble in the slightest so maybe he suffered as well