Tizzi 1 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 How often dose this sort of accident really happen though?I'm keen to get my bitch working on the lamp but I hate the thought if loosing her! Quote Link to post
Guest deerhound hunter Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) lost my lakeyx patterdale chaseing charlie ,found them both dead on the a19 ,devested ,had 2 carry her a few mile with the dog home 2 bury her...rip..mags,,never forgoten Edited October 30, 2010 by deerhound hunter Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 How often dose this sort of accident really happen though?I'm keen to get my bitch working on the lamp but I hate the thought if loosing her! Not meant to sound churlish or anything mate, but if your that worried about it maybe it's not for you and these sort of accidents also happen in the day. My lurcher lives in the house as part of the family, but accepting that this type of thing can and does happen is part & parcel of working an animal in most circumstances. We all hate the thought of what might happen, but we'd never set foot outside the front door if we didn't accept that life carries risk. Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 fell on my arse yesterday oot ferreting Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 How often dose this sort of accident really happen though?I'm keen to get my bitch working on the lamp but I hate the thought if loosing her! Not meant to sound churlish or anything mate, but if your that worried about it maybe it's not for you and these sort of accidents also happen in the day. My lurcher lives in the house as part of the family, but accepting that this type of thing can and does happen is part & parcel of working an animal in most circumstances. We all hate the thought of what might happen, but we'd never set foot outside the front door if we didn't accept that life carries risk. Your right there Malt its the nature of the game we're in.............accidents happen! Quote Link to post
Tizzi 1 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 How often dose this sort of accident really happen though?I'm keen to get my bitch working on the lamp but I hate the thought if loosing her! Not meant to sound churlish or anything mate, but if your that worried about it maybe it's not for you and these sort of accidents also happen in the day. My lurcher lives in the house as part of the family, but accepting that this type of thing can and does happen is part & parcel of working an animal in most circumstances. We all hate the thought of what might happen, but we'd never set foot outside the front door if we didn't accept that life carries risk. Your right there Malt its the nature of the game we're in.............accidents happen! I toatally understnad the risks with these guys and working them and understand what your sayin Malt, I suppose what I'm trying to work out is wether there is more chance of it happening lamping, there is th obvious issue with them running in the dark, but if it's just as likely to happen during the day then i'm not to worried. I'm quite happy to work her, and realise the risks but if there majorly increased on the lamp it would be nice to know Cheers Guys I Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 How often dose this sort of accident really happen though?I'm keen to get my bitch working on the lamp but I hate the thought if loosing her! Not meant to sound churlish or anything mate, but if your that worried about it maybe it's not for you and these sort of accidents also happen in the day. My lurcher lives in the house as part of the family, but accepting that this type of thing can and does happen is part & parcel of working an animal in most circumstances. We all hate the thought of what might happen, but we'd never set foot outside the front door if we didn't accept that life carries risk. Your right there Malt its the nature of the game we're in.............accidents happen! I toatally understnad the risks with these guys and working them and understand what your sayin Malt, I suppose what I'm trying to work out is wether there is more chance of it happening lamping, there is th obvious issue with them running in the dark, but if it's just as likely to happen during the day then i'm not to worried. I'm quite happy to work her, and realise the risks but if there majorly increased on the lamp it would be nice to know Cheers Guys I Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 ive had dogs knocked over by cars ive had dogs them hit trees fences my mate had a great bitch called cass beddy greyhound great bitch on and off the lamp let her off the lead the one night for a piss she chased a rabbit in the dark fell over on a stump and broke her neck out right,the life off the working dog isnt an easy one Quote Link to post
CarraghsGem 92 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 mate lost 2 quality bull lurchers in a matter of weeks ; father + daughter 1 broke its leg beyond repair + was pts the other ran out in front of a car. i havent lost a lurcher to injury yet touch wood Quote Link to post
slsteele 1 Posted October 30, 2010 Report Share Posted October 30, 2010 I think regardless of working ,Lurchers all run flat out and have a natural instinct to chase causing injuries so insurance is a must!......... Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I toatally understnad the risks with these guys and working them and understand what your sayin Malt, I suppose what I'm trying to work out is wether there is more chance of it happening lamping, there is th obvious issue with them running in the dark, but if it's just as likely to happen during the day then i'm not to worried. I'm quite happy to work her, and realise the risks but if there majorly increased on the lamp it would be nice to know Cheers Guys I So much depends on the dog: its mentality and how it approaches its work. If you have a high drive, blinkered dog which is totally committed to catching its prey with no thought of self preservation, then that dog would be lucky to get through a season uninjured. A dog which is more aware of its surroundings and thinks as well as 'doing' then it will probably last longer. That doesn't mean to say that it lacks drive, but that it would sooner lose what it is chasing than kill itself trying. It seems that more dogs injure themselves on the lamp if they haven't first been introduced to the dangers of running prey by daytime: makes sense. If the dog has never chased anything in daylight, learning how to cope with wire, hedges, ditches, stone walls etc, then it can't possibly understand what is happening at night and is more likely to smack headfirst into an obstacle which it hasn't first learned how to deal with by day. I know that it's not always possible to suss out the land before you lamp it, but it is a good idea if you can: harrows, coils of wire etc left in the corners of fiels are very bad news. Was out lamping the other night and my OH's dog hit a chain harrow hidden in quiet short grass: couldn't see it at all: just saw the dog go down to strike and bang! Chipped a couple of teeth, gashed leg: lucky it wasn't more serious: could have broken its legs. There's never been any farm machinery left there before: you never know when it could happen. My dog crashed into a dyke full of brambles the other night, hard on his prey: got stuck in the bottom of the dyke and had to crawl out under the brambles. He was actually lucky he landed in brambles which broke his fall: could have been a broken neck otherwise. Lamping is dangerous, though how dangerous depends on the dog and the type of ground. Quote Link to post
shepp 2,285 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) I think regardless of working ,Lurchers all run flat out and have a natural instinct to chase causing injuries so insurance is a must!......... If I dog breaks it's neck, is hit at speed by a car or smashes it's leg beyond repair, you can have all the insurance you like, it's going to to bugger all to save the dog! Edited October 31, 2010 by shepp Quote Link to post
RossM 8,119 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 my old bitch was a do or die bitch when it came to catching her quarry, one night she got caught in a barbed wire fence and now her attatude totally changed, dont get me wrong she still gives her all but if she knows its getting away she'll pull off it but if she knows she can pick it out from cover or fencelines she still gives it her all, looking back at these pictures i really need to get insurance as this cost me nearly a grand to fix her. the one on her ribs wasnt so bad it was her leg that cost me, they had to open it up und stitch the muscle back together Quote Link to post
Tizzi 1 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 This is all really useful info! Skycat, what your saying makes total sense, the land I work I've worked on and shot on for years so know it like the back of my hand. I still try and get round during the day as much as possible aswell. Keep any info coming guys, for people just starting out this is very useful, anything people have experienced and can help to reduce accidents is worth sharing! Cheers Quote Link to post
predatorman 54 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 its true i think lamping has the more dangers for a dog running a quarry. a lot of dogs down our way tended to be claimed by wide dykes resulting in broken limbs and more so broken necks. it is an occupational hazard with no foolproof solution but you can give your dog a chance by lighting the ditch/dyke for a couple of seconds when the quarry is 10 yard or so away from it. the dog wont usually lose sight of the quarry as it should be close enough to see the silhouette of the prey. i know it wont cure the dyking problem but i've seen it many times where a dog has just enough time to adjust itself at speed to brace itself so it comes out of the dyke winded by a side collision rather than in a heap at the bottom. just my way of doing things and i've been very lucky on numerous occasions never to lose a dog doing this over the years, enough for it not to be coincidence anyway. atb Quote Link to post
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