Brigorn 21yrs ago

[john* 17]

my mate got 1 of those pups

[bolio 51]

Brother...I think it was 98, which was the year after he won the Forley.

Joe took a pup for the service, Tony got two bitches as he had given me Turk, I kept a smooth cream bitch and a red feathered bitch which I later gave to the pal I hunted with and a big feathered cream dog went to a friend down near Mullingar, which I later got back and gave as an adult dog to the big gamekeeper from Wisbech who later sadly drowned when his landrover overturned into a pond. Don't remember any more.

If anyone remembers the date of the Monahdlieth trophy that J.F. won with Elsa...well the next day we had a run on the lower slopes and I had my cream bitch and that big dog and they were 12 months old so that would fix the date.

[brother 10]

Brother...I think it was 98, which was the year after he won the Forley.

Joe took a pup for the service, Tony got two bitches as he had given me Turk, I kept a smooth cream bitch and a red feathered bitch which I later gave to the pal I hunted with and a big feathered cream dog went to a friend down near Mullingar, which I later got back and gave as an adult dog to the big gamekeeper from Wisbech who later sadly drowned when his landrover overturned into a pond. Don't remember any more.

If anyone remembers the date of the Monahdlieth trophy that J.F. won with Elsa...well the next day we had a run on the lower slopes and I had my cream bitch and that big dog and they were 12 months old so that would fix the date.

 

the keeper was Kelvin Shorten had many a dig with him

[bolio 51]

R.I.P. Kelvin

 

Was just thinking today about that litter Darren. Here was what was probably at the time the country's best known and most highly regarded male coursing dog mated to Turk, Queen of the fens as she was known. She once caught 8 from 10 runs in a day, and when Don Southerd issued his challenge Tony accepted and Turk beat the best Don had.

Do you think I should have "chased the coin" instead of giving the pups to friends?

[inan 841]

R.I.P. Kelvin

 

Was just thinking today about that litter Darren. Here was what was probably at the time the country's best known and most highly regarded male coursing dog mated to Turk, Queen of the fens as she was known. She once caught 8 from 10 runs in a day, and when Don Southerd issued his challenge Tony accepted and Turk beat the best Don had.

Do you think I should have "chased the coin" instead of giving the pups to friends?

Those runs were very early in the year, to be fair. I am not sure Turk would have beaten one or two of Don's other dogs.Did Turk win any competition?

[night moocher 41]

Thats a good picture to see ,proper old school.

have you noticed how the hare has changed over the years ,from a big brute to a more athletic smaller vrsion.

[merle24 61]

R.I.P. Kelvin

 

Was just thinking today about that litter Darren. Here was what was probably at the time the country's best known and most highly regarded male coursing dog mated to Turk, Queen of the fens as she was known. She once caught 8 from 10 runs in a day, and when Don Southerd issued his challenge Tony accepted and Turk beat the best Don had.

Do you think I should have "chased the coin" instead of giving the pups to friends?

Those runs were very early in the year, to be fair. I am not sure Turk would have beaten one or two of Don's other dogs.Did Turk win any competition?

 

look at the footage on most of the coursing stuff ,, alot of the match footage are running green hares, thats when you see the big bags and the dogs missing less,, then look at the footage in the depths of winter once they have been ran a bit and slimed down december / january,, lots more misses,, alot less caught,,, you only see they best bits on dvds.

[desert hunter 41]

R.I.P. Kelvin

 

Was just thinking today about that litter Darren. Here was what was probably at the time the country's best known and most highly regarded male coursing dog mated to Turk, Queen of the fens as she was known. She once caught 8 from 10 runs in a day, and when Don Southerd issued his challenge Tony accepted and Turk beat the best Don had.

Do you think I should have "chased the coin" instead of giving the pups to friends?

Those runs were very early in the year, to be fair. I am not sure Turk would have beaten one or two of Don's other dogs.Did Turk win any competition?

and the crabbing begins :wankerzo4:

[brother 10]

Thats a good picture to see ,proper old school.

have you noticed how the hare has changed over the years ,from a big brute to a more athletic smaller vrsion.

 

I was a munti doe

[brother 10]

R.I.P. Kelvin

 

Was just thinking today about that litter Darren. Here was what was probably at the time the country's best known and most highly regarded male coursing dog mated to Turk, Queen of the fens as she was known. She once caught 8 from 10 runs in a day, and when Don Southerd issued his challenge Tony accepted and Turk beat the best Don had.

Do you think I should have "chased the coin" instead of giving the pups to friends?

Those runs were very early in the year, to be fair. I am not sure Turk would have beaten one or two of Don's other dogs.Did Turk win any competition?

and the crabbing begins :wankerzo4:

 

whatever time of the year it was it was still the same two dogs, and Don was a shrewd old buggar and would have brought what he thought was the best for the job

[Blue one 89]

did use not feed or worm dogs back then sorry lads but them dogs are in bits

 

Prick...

[inan 841]

R.I.P. Kelvin

 

Was just thinking today about that litter Darren. Here was what was probably at the time the country's best known and most highly regarded male coursing dog mated to Turk, Queen of the fens as she was known. She once caught 8 from 10 runs in a day, and when Don Southerd issued his challenge Tony accepted and Turk beat the best Don had.

Do you think I should have "chased the coin" instead of giving the pups to friends?

Those runs were very early in the year, to be fair. I am not sure Turk would have beaten one or two of Don's other dogs.Did Turk win any competition?

and the crabbing begins :wankerzo4:

I am not crabbing, I am pointing out that the 8 hares Turk killed were taken very early in the year.

Have you seen the footage?

 

Have you seen Turk run?

 

Have you seen Don's dogs run?

 

If the answer to any of the three questions is no ,then the emoticon you added, more properly applies to yourself.

I have never knocked a dog on this forum,and I have seen a few run.

You've jumped the gun and made 2 and 2, 5.

Is that egg uncomfortable on your face?

[inan 841]

R.I.P. Kelvin

 

Was just thinking today about that litter Darren. Here was what was probably at the time the country's best known and most highly regarded male coursing dog mated to Turk, Queen of the fens as she was known. She once caught 8 from 10 runs in a day, and when Don Southerd issued his challenge Tony accepted and Turk beat the best Don had.

Do you think I should have "chased the coin" instead of giving the pups to friends?

Those runs were very early in the year, to be fair. I am not sure Turk would have beaten one or two of Don's other dogs.Did Turk win any competition?

and the crabbing begins :wankerzo4:

 

whatever time of the year it was it was still the same two dogs, and Don was a shrewd old buggar and would have brought what he thought was the best for the job

The time of year refers to Turk's 8 out of 10,not his match with Don.

Don would undoubtedly have brought his best available dog on the day , but not necessarily the best dog he has owned.

Edited November 3, 2010 by inan

[inan 841]

R.I.P. Kelvin

 

Was just thinking today about that litter Darren. Here was what was probably at the time the country's best known and most highly regarded male coursing dog mated to Turk, Queen of the fens as she was known. She once caught 8 from 10 runs in a day, and when Don Southerd issued his challenge Tony accepted and Turk beat the best Don had.

Do you think I should have "chased the coin" instead of giving the pups to friends?

Those runs were very early in the year, to be fair. I am not sure Turk would have beaten one or two of Don's other dogs.Did Turk win any competition?

 

look at the footage on most of the coursing stuff ,, alot of the match footage are running green hares, thats when you see the big bags and the dogs missing less,, then look at the footage in the depths of winter once they have been ran a bit and slimed down december / january,, lots more misses,, alot less caught,,, you only see they best bits on dvds.

I am not knocking the Bitch, just pointing out ,[as is done on the video], that the 8 hares are taken very early in the year.There was no attempt to suggest otherwise on the video.

[bolio 51]

I think we're all missing the point of my post here.

 

I've seen several of Dons dogs run in the flesh.....I'm in no way trying to demean the man or his dogs, just stating the fact that when he issued his challenge to anyone in the country who wanted to match him, Turk beat whichever dog Don thought was his best on the day.

 

I saw Turk run in the flesh too, indeed on the day Tony gave her to me she killed 2 from 2 on Oggie and Gary's permission at the age of 7 years old.

 

I also have the video which represents most of what Tony had on tape including missed hares.

 

My point was not to make out that Turk was the best bitch in the land, but she was a high class bitch of her era and had competed with the likes of Joe Murphy's Salty etc.

 

The point is that I chose to spread the pups around my friends rather than try to cash in on the reputation of the dogs.....as so often fen runners get accused of.