DIGGIT 6 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 HI ALL :welcomeani: hope you all have had a good xmas, ive just droped in to see what you think about dewclaws on running dogs, should you take them off when they are pups or leave them on. I know i have got my own views on this so what do you lads think please let me know. all the best lee :alcoholic: Quote Link to post
robinmcleod2 0 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 you snip the back ones with some nail cutters then stick some flower on them and give them back to the mother. but you cut them when they 2-3 days old sterelise all the stuff though. hope it helps rob. Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 I take them off ALL my lurchers, at 4-5 days, have seen dogs be off the raod for longs spells with injuries to dew claws, and some heafty vets bills to get them off later in life. But get someone who knows the crack to get them off, if you dont get far enough down they will come back in, at various shaps and angles, these will cause more bother than the original ones. Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 (edited) My whippet bitch pup has her front ones on, she has no back ones. I actually did not think of looking till i got her home. Have had lurchers in the past who had them, infact all my lurchers use to have them and only had 1 problem with 1 dog, the rest were fine. Frank. Edited December 27, 2006 by Frank Quote Link to post
jacob 28 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 My whippet bitch pup has her front ones on, she has no back ones. I actually did not think of looking till i got her home. Have has lurchers in the past who had them, infact all my lurchers use to have them and only had 1 problem with 1 dog, the rest were fine. Frank. off with em mate,they could be an painfull and expensive problem later Quote Link to post
SONNY 0 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 i'd take them off every time,one less injury to worry about. Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 My whippet bitch pup has her front ones on, she has no back ones. I actually did not think of looking till i got her home. Have has lurchers in the past who had them, infact all my lurchers use to have them and only had 1 problem with 1 dog, the rest were fine. Frank. off with em mate,they could be an painfull and expensive problem later Ill see how she goes, but thanks. As i have said, had not many problems in the past, also, as mentioned by someone above, vets are not cheap. Frank. Quote Link to post
collie/grey 238 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 If i had a choice, they would come off every time. Looks tidier to. Quote Link to post
MickC 1,825 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Definetely remove them.Running dogs pick up enough injuries during the season without leaving dew claws on aswell.As said earlier dogs can be laid up for a good while with injuries to dew claws. Quote Link to post
DIGGIT 6 Posted December 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 you snip the back ones with some nail cutters then stick some flower on themand give them back to the mother. but you cut them when they 2-3 days old sterelise all the stuff though. hope it helps rob. hi rob thanks for your view on this matter, ive been in this game for a long time now and i always take the dewclaws off but i don't think putting flour on the open wound is the way mate, flour contains yeast which can lead to infections. The best way to stop the buggers bleeding and stop infection is put some POTASSIUM PERMANGANANATE CRYSTALS on them, this will stop bleeding right away and also act as a disinfectant to stop infection, this can also be used on terrier pups when being docked. The reason why i asked this question in first place was to see how many of you lads where still clipping them off your pups because i juged alot of shows this year and most of the dogs i put my hands over still had theres on. thanks for the replys boys it's good to see most of you are still cipping your pups Quote Link to post
Ray Mears 272 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 mine are off and i wouldent have it any other way take them off or get em riped of and have your dog limping for a while i no witch one i would choose :thumbs-up: Quote Link to post
Guest clarets Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 hello mate still got dew claws on my 14 month whip/grey if running on rough fell/moorland just wondering to tape them up ? but i think the best is to have them took off at pup Quote Link to post
mad al 146 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 A definite off for any dog that is to be in "full flight"..............Al Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Dont need anything on them mate, bitch will lick them clean when she smells the blood, will be scabbed over in days, and you wont be able to see where they have been in weeks, stay away from germaline and those types of things, epsom salts is as good as out..Dont forget the bitch will still lick with ointments on, and these can go through to the milk, even in small quantities. Quote Link to post
DIGGIT 6 Posted December 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Dont need anything on them mate, bitch will lick them clean when she smells the blood, will be scabbed over in days, and you wont be able to see where they have been in weeks, stay away from germaline and those types of things, epsom salts is as good as out..Dont forget the bitch will still lick with ointments on, and these can go through to the milk, even in small quantities. you are right mate, but the small amount that is used in this job will make no odds to the bitchs milk at all. and if you are someone like me that keeps away from the vet and there piss take bills i would reed this it all good stuff. Tetanus is an acute, often-fatal disease of the nervous system which is caused by bacteria called Clostridium tetani. However, it is not that commonly found in dogs. Contaminated wounds are the sites where tetanus bacteria multiply. Deep wounds or those with devitalized (dead) tissue are particularly prone to tetanus infection. Puncture wounds such as those caused by nails, splinters, bullets (more common in Armed Forces dogs, hunting dogs, etc.), or insect bites are favorite locations for the bacteria to enter. The bacteria can also be introduced through burns, any rupture in the skin, and injection-drug sites. Tetanus can also be a risk to both the mother and puppies (through the uterus after delivery and by means of the umbilical cord stump). The potent toxin which is produced when the tetanus bacteria multiply is the cause of the harm in this disease The tetanus toxin affects the site of interaction between the nerve and the muscle that it stimulates. This region is called the neuromuscular junction. The tetanus toxin heightens the chemical signal from the nerve to the muscle which causes the muscles to continuously tighten up in a huge continuous ("tetanic" or "tonic") contraction or spasm. The incubation period between exposure to the bacteria in a contaminated wound and development of the initial symptoms of tetanus ranges from 2 days to 2 months, but is commonly within 14 days of injury. During a 1 to 7 day period, progressive muscle spasms caused by the tetanus toxin in the immediate wound area may progress to involve the entire body in a set of continuous muscle contractions. Uneasiness, headache, and irritability are common. The tetanus neurotoxin causes the muscles to tighten up into a continuous ("tetanic" or "tonic") contraction or spasm. The jaw is "locked" by muscle spasms, giving the name "lockjaw" (also called "trismus"). Muscles throughout the body are affected, including the vital muscles necessary for normal breathing. When the breathing muscles lose their power, breathing becomes difficult or impossible and death can occur any moment if you do not administer any you life-support measures. Even with breathing support, infections of the airways inside the lungs can lead to death. If you cannot get in touch with a vet, wash the wound and disinfect it with oxygen peroxide or potassium permanganate (A poisonous salt that forms dark purple crystals and is purple-red when dissolved in water). In serious wounds, it is advisable to give the dog an anti-tetanus vaccine or serum. But it's always preferable to get the help of the veterinarian. Quote Link to post
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