Doe and Tripplets

[wireviz 8]

Well i was out in the afternoon for a change and saw a doe with tripplets .After a long watch it was decided to take out a buck kid and the smallest Doe kid this should leave the big doe with a good quality kid to bring on.

THIS IS THE KID THAT WAS LEFT LOOKS LIKE THE BAD WINTER DIDNT DOE THIS ONE ANY HARM

 

 

THIS IS VIDEO BUT NOT THAT GOOD QUALITY

 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Im understanding the ethics here but a bit early for me though .Legalities also .

[wireviz 8]

It is legal foxdropper no worry mate these are all dependant.The landowner wants to see a reduction and we have put him off untill now after a chat it was decided i would take only the two kids and leave the one big doe with the best kid. Not the nicest job but it gets the numbers visually down while hopefully still keeping the core population strong.

 

 

Here is a view over glasgow always make sure you have a good back stop

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Has to be done sometimes mate .Welldone on getting the pair though

[coldweld 65]

.243 ?

[wireviz 8]

No mate the trusty 6.5 x55 i didn't know there was any other calibre

[Outofnowhere 93]

I must admit I agree with FD I thought it was illegal to shoot a buck kid and BASC confirmed that it was illegal but I'm sure I heard somewhere you could?

Edited October 26, 2010 by Outofnowhere

[cassshantia 16]

can you shoot doe kids out of season like ,im not a stalker but i thought close seasons were for all deer what ever the age ?

please put me in the right direction thanks

[wireviz 8]

Outofnowhere could you please send me the BASC officer that told you is was against the law please as i will need to have words with him. This would make me a criminal and that woudnt do now would it.

 

Cassshantia no you cant shoot doe kids or does out of season. But in Scotland a kid is a kid the sex dose not matter. It is best practice to take out kids first and then the doe this way if the doe runs off she will be ok if you shoot the doe and cant get the kids at this time of year they will not do to well and might even die so its a welfare issue. Please remember that doe season in Scotland starts on the 21st of oct.

Edited October 27, 2010 by wireviz

[danw 1,748]

out of interest at what point in law does a kid stop being dependant?

I am not asking to criticise just interested.I would have thought after the kid stops taking milk but how would a stalker decide?

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Biologically they are not dependant on the mother after they are weaned but the kid needs its doe for the first winter of its life to show it where the food sources are and when they are available ,something passed down through the roe generations no doubt .Take away the dam too early and most often the kid dosnt amount to much ,even dying .Legally a deer can be shot at any age providing its in season in England but morally many prefere to see them at least full grown .In Scotland however ,where the tempatures are much lower than the South ,many roe kids do not survive their first winter and as Wirevis has stated ,it then becomes a welfare issue to take out a few weaker specimens to allow a doe to concentrate on a better kid .This is one part of the DSC courses that has bettered the welfare of deer in Scotland .

[danw 1,748]

Biologically they are not dependant on the mother after they are weaned but the kid needs its doe for the first winter of its life to show it where the food sources are and when they are available ,something passed down through the roe generations no doubt .Take away the dam too early and most often the kid dosnt amount to much ,even dying .Legally a deer can be shot at any age providing its in season in England but morally many prefere to see them at least full grown .In Scotland however ,where the tempatures are much lower than the South ,many roe kids do not survive their first winter and as Wirevis has stated ,it then becomes a welfare issue to take out a few weaker specimens to allow a doe to concentrate on a better kid .This is one part of the DSC courses that has bettered the welfare of deer in Scotland .

 

Thanks I understand the biology part but really I wondered if they had put an age on the point where the kid is legally dependant or is it the case that within its first year it is still classed as dependant?

[cassshantia 16]

thanks i just asked as his flag was a union jack so i just presumed he shot in england silly me

do all stalkers shoot does 1st as some one once said take mother out 1st then kids will sit around her

is this practise ever an isseu or just lads preference ?

[ratattack 111]

Kids first then doe. The kids will often stand and doe move off to a shot but she often won't go too far if a kid goes down to the shot. Always shoot the weakest/smallest first.

[cassshantia 16]

does the sex matter in england when shooting the kids and mother ?