Exactly how far back does the running dog go in the UK ?

[Aaron Proffitt 142]

So I'm at work the other night and picked up a copy of Tactics and Military Strategy magazine. It's a fascinating mag. about past conflicts and battles and what was learned by what went right and wrong.

 

In this particular issue was an article about the Roman invasion of the British Isles and the events leading up to Boudicca's Revolt, Hadrian's Wall and the other smaller events and uprisings that took place in that era.

 

At one point the author mentioned the Isle of Tin. In that paragraph he mentioned some of Britain's chief exports at the time to the Germanic tribes(primarily) being hunting dogs. My assumption is they were fast dogs. But I could be well off. Can someone maybe enlighten an old history buff ?

[Catcher 1 639]

The lurcher was bread by the Irish in the 1600 hundreds.As for the deer or staghound.you tell me:notworthy:

Edited October 20, 2010 by Catcher 1

[jambay5 191]

I would say from the time the dog was domesticated they would have been used to run game slowly turning into the dogs we have today!

[hywel micah 18]

The Celts of Briton where very keen on hunting dogs long before the Roman invasion of 46AD and they exported them to the gauls of modern day francs. And then the Romans where so imprest with them they took them to breed with there hunting dogs.I think the dogs where similar to deer hounds.

[bird 9,872]

So I'm at work the other night and picked up a copy of Tactics and Military Strategy magazine. It's a fascinating mag. about past conflicts and battles and what was learned by what went right and wrong.

 

In this particular issue was an article about the Roman invasion of the British Isles and the events leading up to Boudicca's Revolt, Hadrian's Wall and the other smaller events and uprisings that took place in that era.

 

At one point the author mentioned the Isle of Tin. In that paragraph he mentioned some of Britain's chief exports at the time to the Germanic tribes(primarily) being hunting dogs. My assumption is they were fast dogs. But I could be well off. Can someone maybe enlighten an old history buff ?

i think there were hunting mastiffs( Alunts), more like GreatDanes with stronger heads. I read that in Col D Hancock book, (not) the lurcher breeder.!!

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

from what i seen and read as it fascinates me there were 2 types one a mollosser type dog and like bird says a dane which would be closer to todays bull x than todays great dane

[Aaron Proffitt 142]

Thanks for the info guys....

[Bosun11 537]

Think Bird is right on this one, as most texts when describing British hunting dogs from that period seem to mention the Mastiff types (they were war dogs too).

Not to say there were no running dogs, as Hywel says they were around then. What is becoming clear, with new reserches into ancient Briton, is that trade was both huge and far reaching, so the distant shores of the east were definatley 'on route', and with hunting dogs so highly prized, these dogs were going back and forth quite often then.

The war-mongering factions between the Saxons and Normans, well before the invasion, dampened the eastern trade routes for many years, France became a wall for everything coming here. Dogs would have been a smuggle too risky and great, so we were left with what we had, becoming the modern British bred sighthounds we know today, same in the East, BUT i'd betcha that if you went back far enough, the same blood would flow through them viens!

[Aaron Proffitt 142]

Think Bird is right on this one, as most texts when describing British hunting dogs from that period seem to mention the Mastiff types (they were war dogs too).

Not to say there were no running dogs, as Hywel says they were around then. What is becoming clear, with new reserches into ancient Briton, is that trade was both huge and far reaching, so the distant shores of the east were definatley 'on route', and with hunting dogs so highly prized, these dogs were going back and forth quite often then.

The war-mongering factions between the Saxons and Normans, well before the invasion, dampened the eastern trade routes for many years, France became a wall for everything coming here. Dogs would have been a smuggle too risky and great, so we were left with what we had, becoming the modern British bred sighthounds we know today, same in the East, BUT i'd betcha that if you went back far enough, the same blood would flow through them viens!

 

 

Wow..thought provoking post

[hywel micah 18]

Think Bird is right on this one, as most texts when describing British hunting dogs from that period seem to mention the Mastiff types (they were war dogs too).

Not to say there were no running dogs, as Hywel says they were around then. What is becoming clear, with new reserches into ancient Briton, is that trade was both huge and far reaching, so the distant shores of the east were definatley 'on route', and with hunting dogs so highly prized, these dogs were going back and forth quite often then.

The war-mongering factions between the Saxons and Normans, well before the invasion, dampened the eastern trade routes for many years, France became a wall for everything coming here. Dogs would have been a smuggle too risky and great, so we were left with what we had, becoming the modern British bred sighthounds we know today, same in the East, BUT i'd betcha that if you went back far enough, the same blood would flow through them viens!

Look under celtic hounds on wikipedia i dont know how to add the link or i would of done it,could someone help plz?

[Aaron Proffitt 142]

Think Bird is right on this one, as most texts when describing British hunting dogs from that period seem to mention the Mastiff types (they were war dogs too).

Not to say there were no running dogs, as Hywel says they were around then. What is becoming clear, with new reserches into ancient Briton, is that trade was both huge and far reaching, so the distant shores of the east were definatley 'on route', and with hunting dogs so highly prized, these dogs were going back and forth quite often then.

The war-mongering factions between the Saxons and Normans, well before the invasion, dampened the eastern trade routes for many years, France became a wall for everything coming here. Dogs would have been a smuggle too risky and great, so we were left with what we had, becoming the modern British bred sighthounds we know today, same in the East, BUT i'd betcha that if you went back far enough, the same blood would flow through them viens!

Look under celtic hounds on wikipedia i dont know how to add the link or i would of done it,could someone help plz?

 

 

Is this it ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Hounds

[Bosun11 537]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Hounds

 

Is that what your after Hywel?

 

Wikipedia is open, therefore open to everyone. What that stub does is describe the 'legend and myth' more than the probability or fact.

[hywel micah 18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Hounds

 

Is that what your after Hywel?

 

Wikipedia is open, therefore open to everyone. What that stub does is describe the 'legend and myth' more than the probability or fact.

Sorry that's all i can find about celtic hounds can you find something else.

[Skinny 29]

i have a dog here that is a direct descendant of the dogs that were on the boat that saint patrick used to escape home from slavery in ireland. He is a good all round worker but cant break him to snakes.

[Bosun11 537]

i have a dog here that is a direct descendant of the dogs that were on the boat that saint patrick used to escape home from slavery in ireland. He is a good all round worker but cant break him to snakes.