Bosun11 537 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 IF.. You gotta feed dry, then go for a protene level of about 24% to 27%, if they are doing a bit this time of year. Yep, you can take it up higher but you really need to be giving your dog decent graft. It don't matter the brand, you may find your dog don't take to some, so you will have to go through a few different types (and a whole heap of slop shovelling!) till you find one that suits your mutt. And, if you do change brands, do it gradually, mix one with the other for a week or so to stop bowel flux and sometimes rapid loss of form & condition. The best i've found are Eucanuba and Australian, the Australian has crietine and your dogs need to be doing plenty to burn it. Also, if your dog is out of action you must lower the protien. If i use any, it's Chudleys... My dogs look well on it, it's cheap (off a greyhound supplier) and has different types with different protien levels. Keeps 'em the same summer & winter.. Oh yer, I also add to it too, raw chicken mince every third night and sardines every fortnight, not to mention 'decent' scraps. One dimentional food is soul destroying!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
craigyboy 1,274 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 its all shite if you want your dog to be fit and healthy then feed it a balanced raw diet,theres no need whatsoever for any o that complete shite crammed with more vitamins than any dog needs,its a load o bollox,protein this protein that ffs if you guys cant see the difference between raw and that shite theres summat wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
black bird 1 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 you dont need all this high protine high proformance stuff a fresh rabbit when you get back from a nights lamping skin bones the lot and the rest of the time just dry compleat and if you wanna fill the dog up more from some bread in with it raw rabbits good way of filling your dogs with worms and if you use white bred starch is no good for the dogs you just get out of them [bANNED TEXT] you put in so a good dog food is worth bi ing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 its all shite if you want your dog to be fit and healthy then feed it a balanced raw diet,theres no need whatsoever for any o that complete shite crammed with more vitamins than any dog needs,its a load o bollox,protein this protein that ffs if you guys cant see the difference between raw and that shite theres summat wrong I totally agree with you Craigy and thats why I started my post with 'IF', BUT lets face it, most on here will use dry, as good raw can be either hard to find, expensive (if you are struggling to find it) and difficult to store and to use (for some) and because of that I posted on my thoughts to it, from what i've learned. I'd also go as far to say that, if given with some thought, I didn't notice any difference in my dogs health or performance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferreting1888 7 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 i use wagg working dog and never had a problem with my lab. oh and the shits arent bad either lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 its all shite if you want your dog to be fit and healthy then feed it a balanced raw diet,theres no need whatsoever for any o that complete shite crammed with more vitamins than any dog needs,its a load o bollox,protein this protein that ffs if you guys cant see the difference between raw and that shite theres summat wrong I totally agree with you Craigy and thats why I started my post with 'IF', BUT lets face it, most on here will use dry, as good raw can be either hard to find, expensive (if you are struggling to find it) and difficult to store and to use (for some) and because of that I posted on my thoughts to it, from what i've learned. I'd also go as far to say that, if given with some thought, I didn't notice any difference in my dogs health or performance! I went from raw to dry and in all honesty she had no loss of condition what so ever. The only reason I went to dry was because my meat supplier stopped getting it. Saying that I would go back to raw tomorrow just for the reason that there is a lot less sh.it to clear up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 At the end of the day its all about exercise, if you want to put muscle on a dog then it needs muscle building exercise such as old fashioned road work, if you want a dog to become fit for a job then you tailor the exercise to fit the work that it is to perform. Feeding alone doesn’t put muscle on a dog. Extra calories beyond the daily metabolic requirements, whether they come from fat, carbs or protein, will be converted by the body to fat and stored as fat. Next if the idea is to bulk up a dog the question needs to be why? Excess muscle is just that Excess and as such will slow a dog down, reduce agility and so add nothing to performance. Feeding a balanced diet with around 24 % protein will supply enough for sensible muscle development while allowing the rest of the calorific supply to be made up of fat and carbs to fuel the adaptive exercise; this will allow the dog to develop the physique that the exercise/work need through the process of adaptation and so give a slim fit dog rather than a fat or muscle-bound one.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bradaz2009 9 Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 best way to bulk up a dog feed it a little extra with very little exercise then start with a little bit of exercise then add to it each day then cut dogs food down till its at the condition you want it at then feed it to keep it there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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