runforyourlife 361 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 And just to add to my last post before the bullx became more popular it was mostly beddyxgreyxwhippet that was used for foxes it was a bit more of a scrap but they done the job bullx just do them more efficiently and end the fox quicker Spot on that terrierjohn, i think people forget that their was nowhere near as many bullx's around as there is now... Atb . Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 "A dog doesn't need a lot of skill to run a fox like it does a hare pre ban" That comment alone RFYL makes me think you haven't done as much as you claim. FTB lol, why what have i claimed to have done mate? Never once have i said any number to foxes caught. Theres myself my mate and diary that know that.. And i think the comment as far as i am concerned is correct...Both my dogs caught their 1st ever ran fox, they didnt catch there 1st hare... They probarbly get 2 in 3 charlies that get up once bushed out of the ruff.... If they were doing this every day on hare, they would considered a shit hot hare dog... So your point is FTB? plus you see quite a few more fox running shitty and look pissed up with a dog behind them, than you do a hare... My point being that anyone doing much at all wouldn't even make the comparison in the first place. They are at either ends of the spectrum and cannot be generalised like you have done. They BOTH require skill in different ways. FTB Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 A dog doesn't need a lot of skill to run a fox like it does a hare pre ban" That comment alone RFYL makes me think you haven't done as much as you claim. FTB lol, why what have i claimed to have done mate? Never once have i said any number to foxes caught. Theres myself my mate and diary that know that.. And i think the comment as far as i am concerned is correct...Both my dogs caught their 1st ever ran fox, they didnt catch there 1st hare... They probarbly get 2 in 3 charlies that get up once bushed out of the ruff.... If they were doing this every day on hare, they would considered a shit hot hare dog... So your point is FTB? plus you see quite a few more fox running shitty and look pissed up with a dog behind them, than you do a hare... In fact, when i think on... You did that digging post, then that guy came along, and told you you didnt know what you were talking about, as you got all your depths wrong and didnt know how to read your finder... Everyone thought what an arsehole that fella was, and all backed you up, as you "had your own way, and means of reading your finder and doing things" You have just totally contradicted yourself mate, by doing exactly what he did to you... Dont think that i am in anyway bothered what you think, or wether you doubt i have done what "i claim to have done on fox" which there hasnt been a claim... They were my views pal... A hare is harder to run and course than a charlie, am i aloud to have that view... I see many run, and this is the conclusion i have drawn up... Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 "A dog doesn't need a lot of skill to run a fox like it does a hare pre ban" That comment alone RFYL makes me think you haven't done as much as you claim. FTB lol, why what have i claimed to have done mate? Never once have i said any number to foxes caught. Theres myself my mate and diary that know that.. And i think the comment as far as i am concerned is correct...Both my dogs caught their 1st ever ran fox, they didnt catch there 1st hare... They probarbly get 2 in 3 charlies that get up once bushed out of the ruff.... If they were doing this every day on hare, they would considered a shit hot hare dog... So your point is FTB? plus you see quite a few more fox running shitty and look pissed up with a dog behind them, than you do a hare... My point being that anyone doing much at all wouldn't even make the comparison in the first place. They are at either ends of the spectrum and cannot be generalised like you have done. They BOTH require skill in different ways. FTB you miss understood what i was saying mate, read what the guy said... getting his dog used to coursing 1st, on hares etc.... So is that not comparing.. Yes, i was saying, exactly what you have said... there is no comparison, just woreded different. And the comparison being, IMO, A fox does not run as well as a hare... I olny used them together, as i was answering what had been written pal... Atb... Quote Link to post
tommy9 13 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 height is only one factor build is another why rush. Have a bitch here over twenty five thirteen months and she wont see a fox til early next season what is the rush is there no rabbits or hares this season to hunt and perfect the skills of running and catching. Hares!!! .. and skills. A dog doesnt need to have a lot of skill to run afox like it does a hare(preban).. I have 2 dogs just under 23" mate..(both do single handed, one did it at just under 12mths, the other was over 2yrs, no bull in them) If i were you i would double your dog up with a seasoned fox hunter..Let it see and learn the ropes. Thats if it wants to, as if it doesnt there is nothing you can do... The reason people hold them back is for them to mature become of age, because once they've jacked pal, there not a lot you can do..A young dog getting a face full of fox alone, can be quite off putting... Quote Link to post
rogue 9 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 My dog is 26 tts and he,s got no intention of hittin a fox and he,s 6 1/2 now.. my bitch is 23 tts and is always willing. some dogs just havnt got it in them and others naturaly take to it. There,s only 1 way to find out Quote Link to post
terrierjohn 49 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 My dog is 26 tts and he,s got no intention of hittin a fox and he,s 6 1/2 now.. my bitch is 23 tts and is always willing. some dogs just havnt got it in them and others naturaly take to it. There,s only 1 way to find out I agree with that rogue at the end of the day its whats in the dogs head not its size you just have to let the dog course a fox to find out if it will take them i also agree that although alot of skill from from a dog is needed for fox depending on what type of ground you run it on its a hole different ball game when it comes to coursing good winter hares atb john Quote Link to post
Trigger 26 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 are small dogs under 23tts with no bull in them and at the right age abel to take fox pre ban of course ie saluki/gray whippit/gray yes Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 i own a 22 tts 5/8 th 3/8th bull grey smashes fox single handed 3 a night,its blackwater stuff tho,you know when you know Why would you mention a BULL in this post.... We all know what bulls do, we get a post about them on here every day.. Quote Link to post
Guest dances Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 my dog is 12 moonth mate, i know lads had there bullxs on there first foz at 6/7 month but doubled up, at the i would run my beedy doubled up atm because of the age what are you running mate?? salki/gray whippit/gray bitch 11 months with a lot attitude and balls how do you know it has balls? Quote Link to post
terrierjohn 49 Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 i own a 22 tts 5/8 th 3/8th bull grey smashes fox single handed 3 a night,its blackwater stuff tho,you know when you know The name of a dogs breeding doesnt make it any better a dog than one that has breeding thats unheard of i have had dogs from merlin and eve and pie lines both very well known breeding and they were not worth sh!te and the dogs i have just now are from lines unheard of and they are superb like i said its whats in a dogs head not size or breeding Quote Link to post
ERYRI 1 Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Good thread ruined again by the looks of things Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 before bull crosses i remember most fox dogs wher mixed breeding not beddy greyhounds. allthough there was beddy grehounds the majority of good fox dogs where deerhoundgrehound collie geyhound and a mixture of these as well as sudry other mixed breeds. including english bull and staff. thats just how i remember it come to think of it most of the good ones had a bit of deerhound in em Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 i own a 22 tts 5/8 th 3/8th bull grey smashes fox single handed 3 a night,its blackwater stuff tho,you know when you know Why would you mention a BULL in this post.... We all know what bulls do, we get a post about them on here every day.. run from your wife little man Smart answer that pal... copying your way through life. Very inteligent bloke you are......Now go on, why would you put about a bullx, when the thread says "no bullx" thick C..t. Quote Link to post
terrierjohn 49 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 john rambo you my friend are the tit head your one of these guys that think because your mutt is blackwater that it is something special it may be i havent seen it work but for your little mind its not the name that makes the dog and if you cant accept that comment then dont post about your dog on a thread that said NO BULLX and as for calling me a tit head it is you that are the tit head if you cant accept oppinions from others especially when i was not criticising your dog but just saying that a name on a dog does not make it a good one in some cases it helps but not always so have a good day my friend 2 Quote Link to post
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