first fox with 12g

[Lab 10,979]

I dont feel I need to justify my hunting with guns because I know what I would shoot with the appropriate shot or I would not attempt to shoot the animal. The time between each shot has no bearing on the situation, its the caliber of shot for a humane kill.

 

If no one had put an opinion on this topic, a novice hunter, wrongly, would think that using a 28g 7.5 load would be ok for foxes !

 

If a youngster with a shotgun asked the question "what shot and load do I need to shot foxes?" it wouldn't even enter your head to say such a light load, so why am I made to feel that I am making a fuss over what I think is important and humane ?

 

As long as the farmers happy, does it still make it right?

 

You call me a twat .... in your ignorance who's the twat ?

I asked a simple question which you have decided to go back on, up too you!. I also never called you a twat either.

[stanley 5]

personally i wouldnt have even thought about taking a shot, if i had had 28g 7.5 shot!

let alone tell anyone.

anyone making that comment certainly doesnt get my respect.

its beyond me why people would use 28g 7.5 shot in the field any way.

i bet that fox was happy to take a head shot from the 2nd barrel as it would have

been in agony from the 1st.

there's hunters,and then there's hunters!!!!!

and theres key board hunters!!!! dont tell me you wouldnt have shot because you would be lying the fox is dead no different to being legged by a rifle or snare or pellet gun they all do it 1 in the bag well done mate

[stanley 5]

You state this is your first fox, so of course it's not your "normal practice". To post something like that on here, and then get antsy when people call you on it, is a bit stupid, and getting personal and abusive doesn't indicate a great deal of maturity.

FIRST FOX WITH THE GUN,not being able to read properly doesnt suggest maturity either,plum

[ytrewq 2]

You state this is your first fox, so of course it's not your "normal practice". To post something like that on here, and then get antsy when people call you on it, is a bit stupid, and getting personal and abusive doesn't indicate a great deal of maturity.

 

ye first fox with the 12g mate. the reason i gt assy with certain people was because the way the commentd on the post makin out like i was dangerous n stupid with a gun. if the comments tht wer made wernt making out tht i was an unsafe shot then i wudnt off gt assy. i cn accept critism as shud every1

[Deker 3,478]

You state this is your first fox, so of course it's not your "normal practice". To post something like that on here, and then get antsy when people call you on it, is a bit stupid, and getting personal and abusive doesn't indicate a great deal of maturity.

 

ye first fox with the 12g mate. the reason i gt assy with certain people was because the way the commentd on the post makin out like i was dangerous n stupid with a gun. if the comments tht wer made wernt making out tht i was an unsafe shot then i wudnt off gt assy. i cn accept critism as shud every1

 

 

Any chance you could try the spell checker, I was enjoying the dabate but I've got a bit lost now!

[matt_hooks 188]

You state this is your first fox, so of course it's not your "normal practice". To post something like that on here, and then get antsy when people call you on it, is a bit stupid, and getting personal and abusive doesn't indicate a great deal of maturity.

FIRST FOX WITH THE GUN,not being able to read properly doesnt suggest maturity either,plum

 

First fox with the 12 bore is what the man said. Thus he doesn't have a "normal load for foxes FROM THAT GUN".

 

I'm sorry if the thread is a little hard for you to follow stanley, would you like me to use shorter words and sentences?

 

ytrew, I didn't question your safety, or suggest that you were dangerous or anything of the sort. I merely pointed out that that load might be considered a little short for taking a fox, and I'm sure if it hadn't been close you wouldn't have taken the shot!

Edited October 19, 2010 by matt_hooks

[Lab 10,979]

You state this is your first fox, so of course it's not your "normal practice". To post something like that on here, and then get antsy when people call you on it, is a bit stupid, and getting personal and abusive doesn't indicate a great deal of maturity.

FIRST FOX WITH THE GUN,not being able to read properly doesnt suggest maturity either,plum

 

First fox with the 12 bore is what the man said. Thus he doesn't have a "normal load for foxes FROM THAT GUN".

 

I'm sorry if the thread is a little hard for you to follow stanley, would you like me to use shorter words and sentences?

 

ytrew, I didn't question your safety, or suggest that you were dangerous or anything of the sort. I merely pointed out that that load might be considered a little short for taking a fox, and I'm sure if it hadn't been close you wouldn't have taken the shot!

Isnt that a part of shooting though, gauging your distances? If he had 2 BB's in would it be ok then to take the shot at 80/90 yards because he has the correct load in? Looks to me that he made a decision that the distance was short enough to make a kill, and in the end it did!!

[ytrewq 2]

You state this is your first fox, so of course it's not your "normal practice". To post something like that on here, and then get antsy when people call you on it, is a bit stupid, and getting personal and abusive doesn't indicate a great deal of maturity.

FIRST FOX WITH THE GUN,not being able to read properly doesnt suggest maturity either,plum

 

First fox with the 12 bore is what the man said. Thus he doesn't have a "normal load for foxes FROM THAT GUN".

 

I'm sorry if the thread is a little hard for you to follow stanley, would you like me to use shorter words and sentences?

 

ytrew, I didn't question your safety, or suggest that you were dangerous or anything of the sort. I merely pointed out that that load might be considered a little short for taking a fox, and I'm sure if it hadn't been close you wouldn't have taken the shot!

Isnt that a part of shooting though, gauging your distances? If he had 2 BB's in would it be ok then to take the shot at 80/90 yards because he has the correct load in? Looks to me that he made a decision that the distance was short enough to make a kill, and in the end it did!!

 

 

exactly the kill was done end of

[Aaron Proffitt 142]

What a load of crap, bashing on the guy. I've probably killed more US coyotes with copper-plated #4's during Spring and Fall turkey seasons when they presented themselves than with any other gun/caliber/gauge in the house. End result was always the same...tits up dead. Just like the fox in question.

[stanley 5]

You state this is your first fox, so of course it's not your "normal practice". To post something like that on here, and then get antsy when people call you on it, is a bit stupid, and getting personal and abusive doesn't indicate a great deal of maturity.

FIRST FOX WITH THE GUN,not being able to read properly doesnt suggest maturity either,plum

 

First fox with the 12 bore is what the man said. Thus he doesn't have a "normal load for foxes FROM THAT GUN".

 

I'm sorry if the thread is a little hard for you to follow stanley, would you like me to use shorter words and sentences?

 

ytrew, I didn't question your safety, or suggest that you were dangerous or anything of the sort. I merely pointed out that that load might be considered a little short for taking a fox, and I'm sure if it hadn't been close you wouldn't have taken the shot!

i seem to be following it quite well it is you that seems to have forgot what you said,bitching about maturity and then backtracking.

[danebrewer10 6]

What a load of crap, bashing on the guy. I've probably killed more US coyotes with copper-plated #4's during Spring and Fall turkey seasons when they presented themselves than with any other gun/caliber/gauge in the house. End result was always the same...tits up dead. Just like the fox in question.

 

sure there's 'owt to say that such a light load won't kill a fox, nor nothing to say that your 4s won't kill a fox, similarly, you could quite easily kill a deer with a .22LR, but you wouldn't go after a deer with a .22, what the guys are saying is, and I second it,m is that you shouldn't shoot a fox with 28gm of 7.5s, which is a clay load (tbh i wouldn't really go after any quarry with a load like that, apart from perhaps partridges, woodcock or decoyed pigeons, my load of preference is Eley Grand Prix 30gm 6, a smashing load, but that's for another day), we don't know the whole circumstance, like range, how the animal was standing etc, but in general, I would say it's a no-no, best to carry some heavy 50gm BBs, and if the fox gets away when you're changing cartridges, then so be it, he'll always be there again another day.

[Lab 10,979]

What a load of crap, bashing on the guy. I've probably killed more US coyotes with copper-plated #4's during Spring and Fall turkey seasons when they presented themselves than with any other gun/caliber/gauge in the house. End result was always the same...tits up dead. Just like the fox in question.

 

sure there's 'owt to say that such a light load won't kill a fox, nor nothing to say that your 4s won't kill a fox, similarly, you could quite easily kill a deer with a .22LR, but you wouldn't go after a deer with a .22, what the guys are saying is, and I second it,m is that you shouldn't shoot a fox with 28gm of 7.5s, which is a clay load (tbh i wouldn't really go after any quarry with a load like that, apart from perhaps partridges, woodcock or decoyed pigeons, my load of preference is Eley Grand Prix 30gm 6, a smashing load, but that's for another day), we don't know the whole circumstance, like range, how the animal was standing etc, but in general, I would say it's a no-no, best to carry some heavy 50gm BBs, and if the fox gets away when you're changing cartridges, then so be it, he'll always be there again another day.

It was 15 yards..........plenty close, 1 dead fox to prove the point. Nobody is saying they would choose that load for foxes but if you have them in the gun at the time and you think you can make a clean kill then why not take the shot?

[Deker 3,478]

It's not like me to say CALM DOWN, I'm usually in the thick of debates like this but I rather think this has run it's course, and frankly it's getting boring!

 

ATB!!