shitzu 0 Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 alright lads hows it going heres my problem i have a pat hes nearly two he started work this year a couple of bolts and middle of the road digs in straight forward earths last week i entered him he found but the earth was half flood he bottled it up in the freezing water they went at it we started to dig half hour later he came out it was a tough spot for a fairly inexperianced dog we later dug to it with a more experienced dog that sounded at it not mixing it hes my first working terrier is there any hope for him any advice is appriciated Quote Link to post
jonesy 111 Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 I wouldnt get rid just yet give him a few more chances in earths that are not straight forward ,got to give them a chance Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 A long time ago I had a similar experience with a young dog faced with a partly flooded earth for the first time: she just did'nt know what to do: and it was only her third time out to ground. She went on to work consistently and well, finding in very big earths and never ever quit again: and even though she hated water she went in later years to succeed in flooded earths and all sorts of awkward situations. I'd give him a chance, if he's only just started working. Its far too soon to write him off yet. Quote Link to post
Guest whitser Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 keep trying him til you know for sure if he's a good one or a cur. if he walks he goes. dont be late in the morning pecker head. Quote Link to post
PBurns 9 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 If you stay with a dog and give it experience, in the end it will probably do the same for you. Nothing fails a dog more than a human that will quit on it. Have patience and soon enough the dog will likely have perseverance. P Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 If you stay with a dog and give it experience, in the end it will probably do the same for you. Nothing fails a dog more than a human that will quit on it. That One, surely, needs Pinning somewhere! It's got to be the Most concise, all encompassing and TRUE statement man can apply to a Dog! Where's Ian B? Ian? Can't that be affixed to the top of each of the 'Dog' Boards here, mate? It's f*cking blinding! Lazer arrow, straight to the very heart of so much we read here! Gets my vote for The One of 2006. That's a f*cking certainty! I shall now copy it and sneak it off to HDD. To be cited when and where ever I find the oppertunity. Let's Spread that message! Pat'; My hat's off to ye, mate! Quote Link to post
king 11,972 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 If you stay with a dog and give it experience, in the end it will probably do the same for you. Nothing fails a dog more than a human that will quit on it. That One, surely, needs Pinning somewhere! It's got to be the Most concise, all encompassing and TRUE statement man can apply to a Dog! Where's Ian B? Ian? Can't that be affixed to the top of each of the 'Dog' Boards here, mate? It's f*cking blinding! Lazer arrow, straight to the very heart of so much we read here! Gets my vote for The One of 2006. That's a f*cking certainty! I shall now copy it and sneak it off to HDD. To be cited when and where ever I find the oppertunity. Let's Spread that message! Pat'; My hat's off to ye, mate! you are right ditchy the man has said 2 sentences that mean a hell of a lot more p.burn's Quote Link to post
Guest whitser Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 If you stay with a dog and give it experience, in the end it will probably do the same for you. Nothing fails a dog more than a human that will quit on it. Have patience and soon enough the dog will likely have perseverance. P thats perfect. i will never forget that advice. well said p burns. Quote Link to post
TimJ 0 Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 Ditch Shitter, if you use that phrase , I would take the word "probably" out of it. Quote Link to post
celt 1 Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 Excellent phrase, I was just thinkg about flooded earths and my experience of them, an area where my brother and I work terriers in beside a large lough in NI. We come across this flooded earths a bit there and also on the mosses where we dig too. So far this year we have noticed more flooded earths, or at least with a drop of water in them. What does anyone else think? My brother has more experience of these earths and when I spoke to him on the phone before said, he trys to keep pups and first season dogs out of these types of earths as they can put them off. What he did say he was going to start doing was getting the dogs into water more as pups so it doesnt discourage them too much. What do you think as some of our workers now do not like water but will pile into a flooded earth. Overall don't get discouraged, try them in simpler earths and make your decision after that Quote Link to post
blackpack 70 Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 If you stay with a dog and give it experience, in the end it will probably do the same for you. Nothing fails a dog more than a human that will quit on it. Have patience and soon enough the dog will likely have perseverance. P sound advice mate. nice one Quote Link to post
marko 30 Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 have to agree a great line of p. burns very sound advice and every word true a very knowledgeable person putting it all together in a couple of sentences without droning on and on. Quote Link to post
biza hollis 27 Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 If you stay with a dog and give it experience, in the end it will probably do the same for you. Nothing fails a dog more than a human that will quit on it. Have patience and soon enough the dog will likely have perseverance. P been looking through some back posts and seen this chaps quote not a true a word spoken if this advice was followed they probabably wouldnt be so many young terriers and lurchers up for sale atb biza Quote Link to post
big yin 3 Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 give the dog a rest and try it again if the dog was in contact with the fox it may have took a belly full off water? Quote Link to post
fellman 116 Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 If you stay with a dog and give it experience, in the end it will probably do the same for you. Nothing fails a dog more than a human that will quit on it. Have patience and soon enough the dog will likely have perseverance. P what a load of absolute shite ............................... no amount of experiance or patience will make a average/bad dog anything other than average or bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 if they are rubbish sort it move on ...............cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear................ failed dogs are a fact of life if YOU cant face that you shouldnt have dogs!!! simple as that fucks sake .......... yis fellman Quote Link to post
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