doxhope 2 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 im dog 1/2 greyhound, 1/4 collie, 1/8 saluki, 1/8 bedlington im not bothed about going back to pure breeds both parents work as long as she works how i want her to Thats the way matie, often heard people saying, when in doubt go back to the greyhound, but if you have no doubts about what your dogs can do, then why bother, hope your pup grows to be able to do everything you want it to do, I have no boubts it will Quote Link to post
Guest wilsonnobby Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 ty mate i hope it grows the fella i got it off says it will grow to about 18 to 20 but i think more because the dam is 19 and the sire is 24 to 26 Quote Link to post
inan 841 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Having had a PM regarding the breeding of one of my past dogs I have been thinking about just how accurate most 'pedigrees' are when it comes to lurcher-to-lurcher matings. Indeed, I have only ever had one dog that I knew, without doubt, what the true breeding was, and that was only because I could trace it's breeding back to the pure-breeds on both sides. But what about the 1/2 greyhound, 1/4 collie, 1/8 saluki, 1/8 bedlington, or maybe the 3/8 greyhound, 3/8 bull, 1/8 collie, 1/8 deerhound and so on? Unless we can trace the breeding accurately back to the pure breeds then we cannot say with 100% certainty what the true breeding is. Therefore I have my suspicions when it comes to the advertised breeding of pups, and my cynical side believes that most are the result of either guesswork, or the desire to provide the 'in' cross at the time. But why do this? Why not be honest and sell them as lurcher-to-lurcher bred without providing a breakdown of how they are bred? I have two dogs in my kennel at the moment and both are 'Bitsas', however, I don't believe that detracts from their usefulness in the field. My oldest dog 'Bowzer' was the result of (and I'm quoting the seller) his "saluki cross mated with his mates lurcher". He didn't try to offer a 'pedigree', to him it was just a breeding between two useful lurchers to provide himself with a new pup. Here's the result: He's now retired due to severing both his tendons in his front wrist last year, but he was a good lamping dog in his time (despite a massive amount of problems that had developed in him during the 6 months the breeder had him). He also has (well had) the saluki style of running that saw him effortlessly eat up the ground and I have no doubt he would have been a better hare dog than rabbit dog had I been living in hare-rich country! My youngest dog 'Freyja' is also a bitsa, but again she's proving to be a good dog - correction, shes proving to be an excellent dog and I have no doubt she will be my best yet. But again I brought her without a pedigree of any kind; she was simply the result of mating a 'very good dog' with a 'very good dog'. So the question I'm throwing out to the forum is this: Would you buy a bitsa bred lurcher, or does it have to come with a 'pedigree'? Crow I have an8month old pup which I hope to use for rabbits he is grey/colliexwhippet/beddieXwhippet/beddie,hes 24at the shoulder I dont know what he weighs ,butits quite a bit as he collided with me chasing my saluki x today and my legs up like a balloon,love the pic of your bitch by the way she looks a real nice sort.INAN. Quote Link to post
MikeTheDog 153 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Well I’ve never had a ‘pure/cross x pure/cross, In the past it’s been a straightforward ‘bitsa’ crossed with another ‘bitsa’. It is handy to know if the ‘bitsa’ line you want to use breeds ‘true to type’ as is often claimed by their owners otherwise you have know idea what progeny the parents will produce. My current lurcher Meg’ came from collie/grey x collie/grey/whippet and imo turned out physically perfect in shape and form, the space ‘tween ears aint too badly filled either…lol. Her litter mates were all of similar stamp and a second litter from the same parents the following year was likewise! So I guess if you like what you see in the Sire and the Dam and can see their progeny you may have some guestimate as to what the result of a unison twixt those parents might produce,…in that case, who gives a monkey’s cuss as to what the parents breeding is!...If you get my drift that is… Meg' at 18 moths. Quote Link to post
bullmastiff 615 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Now that's a stunning Dog MikeTheDog love the look of him. Quote Link to post
MikeTheDog 153 Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Thank you, bitch...the dog that is not you.. Quote Link to post
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