be careful lampers

[Guest whitser]

this is especially relevent for any irish lads,since the p nally case. iwas out for a lamp near my house on thurs, ive no permission out there but seen as its all tillage and im after rabbits i've never been stopped. any way i was a small field near to a big fancy house and the wxxxer inside came out and fired 5 or 6 shots over my head. i think since the nally case farmers will be quiker to shoot first ask questions later so make sure you have permission or risk getting pepperd with lead or worse.

[chartpolski 24,451]

I was pulled by three blokes with shotguns on the feilds behind my house, they threatened to give me a hiding and shoot my dogs. Two things were in my favour, I had just come back from 26 years in the Middle East, when someone points a gun at you out there, they mean it !! I could see that two of these guys weren't really up for it and the other one was just a gobby c**t showing off, secondly, I knew that the local council owned the land and had a strict no shooting, no hunting policy, anyway I phoned the council, who shit themselves and visited the farmer who leases the land and threatened to revoke his lease, he then phoned me, full of appolagies, he has banned the blokes from all his land, owned and leased. All the arseholes had to say was that they were shooting pigeons and I would have kept out of the way, but they had to threaten me, now they have lost their bit sport.

Cheers.

[Guest spud]

[bANNED TEXT] s the p nally case whitser?

[Guest whitser]

[bANNED TEXT] s the p nally case whitser?

farmer shot and killed a traveller that was on his land. he got done for man slaughter then found not quilty on appeal. once farmers see a lamp they think travellers.

[Guest JohnGalway]

this is especially relevent for any irish lads,since the p nally case. iwas out for a lamp near my house on thurs, ive no permission out there but seen as its all tillage and im after rabbits i've never been stopped. any way i was a small field near to a big fancy house and the wxxxer inside came out and fired 5 or 6 shots over my head. i think since the nally case farmers will be quiker to shoot first ask questions later so make sure you have permission or risk getting pepperd with lead or worse.

 

I'm sorry for what happened to you but I must take issue with some of what you've said. No one should have pointed a gun at you nor should they have discharged it so recklessly. Have you reported them for doing this? I'd guess not since you had been on land without permission while armed yourself.

 

Being a farmer myself (and shooter with shotgun and .223) who actually knows Padraig Nally, rather than judging from TV and newspaper reports I think your statement regarding Mr Nally & farmers in general to be grossly unfair. No one with any sense has branded the result of that case a licence to kill, with the media being the exception but sense doesn't apply in their case.

 

I'm not trying to start a fight, honestly. But that situation could have been easily avoided with a bit of common sense had you gotten permission from the relevent land owner. The person who discharged the shotgun doesn't deserve to hold a firearms certificate, people like that give shooters who do it right a bad name.

 

Having said my piece, a very happy & safe Christmas to you & yours

[Guest whitser]

this is especially relevent for any irish lads,since the p nally case. iwas out for a lamp near my house on thurs, ive no permission out there but seen as its all tillage and im after rabbits i've never been stopped. any way i was a small field near to a big fancy house and the wxxxer inside came out and fired 5 or 6 shots over my head. i think since the nally case farmers will be quiker to shoot first ask questions later so make sure you have permission or risk getting pepperd with lead or worse.

 

I'm sorry for what happened to you but I must take issue with some of what you've said. No one should have pointed a gun at you nor should they have discharged it so recklessly. Have you reported them for doing this? I'd guess not since you had been on land without permission while armed yourself.also i wasn't armed i only had a dog and lamp but i didn't have permission.

 

Being a farmer myself (and shooter with shotgun and .223) who actually knows Padraig Nally, rather than judging from TV and newspaper reports I think your statement regarding Mr Nally & farmers in general to be grossly unfair. No one with any sense has branded the result of that case a licence to kill, with the media being the exception but sense doesn't apply in their case.

 

I'm not trying to start a fight, honestly. But that situation could have been easily avoided with a bit of common sense had you gotten permission from the relevent land owner. The person who discharged the shotgun doesn't deserve to hold a firearms certificate, people like that give shooters who do it right a bad name.

 

Having said my piece, a very happy & safe Christmas to you & yours

i dont blame p nally for what he did,frog ward would have done him given the chance. im just saying that lads should be careful and get permission. i didn't and look what happened. also im not saying farmers got a license to kill just that maybe they might be quicker to let off a shot in the air then before.

Edited December 23, 2006 by whitser

[Guest JohnGalway]

i dont blame p nally for what he did,frog ward would have done him given the chance. im just saying that lads should be careful and get permission. i didn't and look what happened. also im not saying farmers got a license to kill just that maybe they might be quicker to let off a shot in the air then before.

 

Totally agree with you :thumbs-up: It sounded bad earlier on IMO, I felt I had to reply. Like I say I wasn't trying to get under your skin or start a fight just pointing a few things out. No hard feelings I hope

 

Just now seen that you only had a dog with you, apologies for saying armed! I made an assumption since my expierence with lamping involves guns.

Edited December 23, 2006 by JohnGalway

[jpnixon 7]

thats right blue, I mean once you step on someones land without permission ye know it could turn into a handling, in saying that round my way most of them don't give a flying fu*k as long as your not arsing about you be grand

[Guest whitser]

even though i should've expected it i didn't,and it did give me a fright. just have to be stealthier when out poaching.

[sniffer 167]

in my eyes it's part of the risk of poaching, i do it and i'm always on the lookout

i agree blue ,but no one deserves shooting for poaching a few rabbits or even a few hare's ,travellers,black white or indifferent some farmers do get abit trigger happy

[Crow 1]

If I were to venture on to land that I didn't have permission then I would do so accepting what may come my way - although there is a line to that acceptance. If some twat decided to discharge a gun in my direction then I'm afraid that's beyond that line, and I'd have to take recourse. That may be a call to the old bill, it may be something more personal

 

Edited to add (because I'm a slower typist and they beat me to it!):

 

Frankie, my kind of thinking although maybe I'd try something a little less obvious

 

Sniffer, I agree totally.

Edited December 23, 2006 by Crow

[Guest JDF]

this has happened to me twice,once a shot was fired from a distance,the other was threatened to shoot the dog on a road,both times the threat was faced down without violence.

it's an emotive issue but at the end of the day you're where you shouldn't be but there is a line that should be drawn and shooting at some one crosses it,how i would have reacted if the dog was killed i've no idea

:whistle:

[MickC 1,825]

Good advice mate. Me an a couple of boys ended up starin down the barrels of 2 guns last week when we were out with the dogs, on a place where i have never been bothered before and seen many people there while we were out during the day........ dont know who these 2 dicks were or whether they had any right to be there more than we did, but they told us to do one anyhow. I'm boilin thinkin about it Because we were out with lurchers and terriers we were told we weren't allowed to walk the dogs there and got threatened with guns an the dogs booted, i'll be honest, i panicked and dropped my arse basically cos they should of got knocked out but its the first time ive had a gun up me nose in the middle of no-where and apart from 'Blue' who was away up a hill, the lads i was with never said a nut!!! Sorry about the rant but im still fumin

Did one of them kick the dogs ?

[J Darcy 5,871]

The rift has been caused alot by theiving b*****ds using running dogs as an excuse to get out and about round farms at night to see what they can steal.... understandably the farmers tar us all with the same brush.......

[mavphill 0]

its one thing going out with a gun to protect yourself if youv'e got unknowns on your land, but if they are not armed or mob handed its well out of order to start threatning to shoot people. We have to jump through hoops now to get licences and peope who abuse the right should have their's taken away. I would report anyone who threatened me with a firearm.