Schemers, Dreamers & non-beleivers

[Guest stewie]

Looking at all these threads lately of obviously unsuitable (for want of a better word) crossed takeing mammoth amounts of Deer, Fox etc it makes me wonder.....do any of these people ACTUALLY know what it means to hunt large amounts of this type of quarry every season or do they think because they have done one or two that the dog is a legend?

 

Is it something more and they plan a litter but want to get a bit of advertising in beforehand?

 

Are they being totally honest about the type of land they hunt or are we all fenced into deer parks?

 

I dont doubt one or two bits and bats can be taken on the odd ocassion, but in numbers (real number)......come on boys, wake up

 

There are a lot of jokers, liars and dreamers who say they have done what they have not. But equally there are lots of arrogant fools who brand anyone who says they have done something that they themselves havn't as a joker, liar or dreamer with no more proof than. . . .. they don't believe them.

:laugh: well said jai!!!!

[shaaark 10,702]

Used to chase big numbers alot when i was younger...nowadays im content to catch what i think is acceptable to prove the dogs mettle....they are companions not machines....i,ll leave the number chasing to the young uns now who think they,ve got something to prove...atb stabba

That's wrong with with most it of all nowadays , too many idiots who are just looking for numbers. Wasn't like that when I started, and as far as I 'm concerned never will be. I don't post often, but this kind of crap really pisses me off!

[ReggieCuz 18]

You get the same in Oz with the piggers. Lots of dreamers banging on about their dogs catching 15 bigguns single handed every day of the year.

In my experience I would more catch a pig on most outings, but sometimes I wouldn't.

Sometimes you get a pig an hour into your weekend hunt and it's a tad disappointing cos you wanted the whole weekend to be out in the bush. But, you gotta take your pig and get it to the freezer before it gets flyblown.

Unless of course it's a big boar, then you keep hunting for a younger sow for the table and keep the boar for the dogs.

 

I had some good dogs and got some acceptable numbers, but most definitely not the best dogs around.

[whippet 99 2,613]

respect the quarry we hunt and the way we go about our sport

[HALTY LAD 92]

I see this place hasnt changed a lot! Well, my opinion on the subject would be that I really dont care, if some deluded twats feel the need to lie on here to boost their ego's, but its a sad state of affairs if this is done to help sales of pups

On a personal note I think its best that I keep my game book records to me and close friends... dont want to make you all jealous

[HBG 350]

to many bother about what others are getting up to!do what ya do and who cares what others are catching or not catching

[gatwick 6]

Numbers are very important a dog wont get "style" without being shown a lot of its intended quarry you have to use a bit of common with a young dog not wanting to sour it, but once its mature it needs to see as much as possable,with as much success as possable,how are u going to judge a dog if its only out once a week for a couple of runs.On the roe and fox good numbers were and are possable to take in the right conditions ie weather.We used to be able to post pics on this site week in week out showing and proving what numbers can be taken but those days are gone now.If u think u have a good dog taking it out once a week and killing a fox or 2 your wrong or a roe or 2 your wrong you need to push your dogs and yourselves a bit harder see what you can achieve.or see if you dog jacks lol.

[Guest joely b]

loads of dreamers up and down the country i have met them , i have had ivites all over england and i have mates that have got good dogs up and down the country a lot dont even no about these sites and wouldnt even come on . and they kill big stuff with these good dogs and there was plenty to go at . take 0ne to bring pup on then away home when easy took more . out with the good dogs mixed good bag, i have been to a few cracking spots and could of took a few but we havnt . now saying that a good few year ago we took five in one night . no fences big fields roe... witch i say is the hardest of the dear to take . this was on an esstate. invite. i have been asked off a keeper who was given my number from a shepard up scotland who is a mate of mine him and his pals where the dreamers the dogs could do this and that and to be totaly honest i wouldnt of given them kennle room , i have always siad get the dog for your game.. and but as much as you can into him . and also in front of him . but the company i keep now as to the dog lads are the good lads . i do think thats a big part of this sport that is in my blood , as we all no there is a lot of lads out there with a lurcher that will never get the best out of there dog becuase they havnt a clue . . yes we all have to start from the begining but i see these dreamers at every show and some of the tales make me laugh . . but you can spot them a mile away . lets keep it real

[Tally Ho Hunter 60]

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[leec 132]

you lot sound like just the kind of people that responsible for half the shit dogs out there,

lets x billy 3 bunnys with rosie 1 roe and call um allrounders,

dogs need to be pushed hard they need numbers not just to show how good they are but to see if theres any weaknesses,

take first season rabbit dogs push um hard by end of second season a large % will pull up on hedges or pick an choose what they run,

just an example every one is different i suppose

[brookie 1,193]

you lot sound like just the kind of people that responsible for half the shit dogs out there,

lets x billy 3 bunnys with rosie 1 roe and call um allrounders,

dogs need to be pushed hard they need numbers not just to show how good they are but to see if theres any weaknesses,

take first season rabbit dogs push um hard by end of second season a large % will pull up on hedges or pick an choose what they run,

just an example every one is different i suppose

well said lee.

[boyo 1,398]

when i was a lot younger numbers did matter didnt feel we had a good night if there wasnt a big bag in the morning . those were the days when i was out every night i could getting in at 5.30 and clocking on at 6am nowadays ide rather see one good run than loads of piss poor ones ive travelled all over the country hunting and drove 4 hrs each way to end up with one run . but as long as it was a good run and some of the otheres had runs it doesnt matter . bit like sex really quality is much better than quality .lol.and it doesnt need to be a huge lurcher to take big stuff regular once had a 23inch one that took fallow regular and didnt need fences to help her either .nowadays dont get out half as much in fact not anywhere near that ive got a saluki x greyhound i bred 7 months old and know deep down she will never reach her full potential because of the fact i cannot give her the work required she needs to make her what i used to need and want but she will still do for me nowadays .

[strongbow1 257]

id b ova the moon with 10 in a nite, and thats rabbits!lol!

[wheaton x 3]

i think nowdays its the young lads that go for the numbers trying to proove ther dogs but but like a few pepole have said most hit fences up my way they bang on about there bull crosses and how hrd they are but its those lads who nack things up for lads like me.when i was younger i didnt know when to go home lol i was out all night trying to catch one more but now i have nothing to proove and i also think its not about the numbers its about going out me and my pal and enjoying what i do and having respect for youre quarry and knowing when to say thats enugh lets go home.you dont need numbers when you have knowlage