Blown

[riohog 5,701]

are you talking about a massive lactic acid build up in muscle . which can couse colapse ?

 

Rio, I think a dog can be "blown", from many causes. One of the finest looking dogs I've seen, collapsed a couple of years ago after taking a massive amount of rabbits. A very well known guy off the sites was there and tryed everything;mouth to mouth, chest massage no avail. The emergency vet saved it's life but it was blind and paraplegic, so was obviously PTS. The diagnosis was an anueism on the brain; basicaly a stroke. Some dogs will run 'till they kill themselves, some owners will run their dogs'till they kill them ! I'ts all about knowing when enoughs enough.

 

Cheers.

yes i totally agree . i had a big strong greyhound years ago that suffered the same fate a stroke ,

looking back now i did see sighns of it prior to the final stroke ..hindsight is a fine thing !!

 

[chartpolski 23,562]

There's an old saying; "The mind is willing, but the heart is weak"! A good, well bred Lurcher will run all day and give it's best, but if it's not fit and well fed and looked after, it will try 'til it's body can't do what it's mind wants it to ! Then they die, or are pased on as "jackers" !! You only get out of a dog what you put into it !

 

Cheers.

[busher 145]

There's an old saying; "The mind is willing, but the heart is weak"! A good, well bred Lurcher will run all day and give it's best, but if it's not fit and well fed and looked after, it will try 'til it's body can't do what it's mind wants it to ! Then they die, or are pased on as "jackers" !! You only get out of a dog what you put into it !

 

Cheers.

well seid.. ATB..B

[busher 145]

are you talking about a massive lactic acid build up in muscle . which can couse colapse ?

 

Rio, I think a dog can be "blown", from many causes. One of the finest looking dogs I've seen, collapsed a couple of years ago after taking a massive amount of rabbits. A very well known guy off the sites was there and tryed everything;mouth to mouth, chest massage no avail. The emergency vet saved it's life but it was blind and paraplegic, so was obviously PTS. The diagnosis was an anueism on the brain; basicaly a stroke. Some dogs will run 'till they kill themselves, some owners will run their dogs'till they kill them ! I'ts all about knowing when enoughs enough.

 

Cheers. BANG ON.. ATB..B

yes i totally agree . i had a big strong greyhound years ago that suffered the same fate a stroke ,

looking back now i did see sighns of it prior to the final stroke ..hindsight is a fine thing !!

 

[down the road 1]

i blown dogs and no way they never come back.

sorry to hear of any blown dog,

it was the days of the fens and runing dogs hard,

[weasle 1,119]

Dogs being blown as i understood it is damage to the lungs,diaphragm,ect.I also thought a dog that has been blown will recover and run again but will be short winded.Feeding a dog before running could do this kind of damage, stomach pressing on diaphragm.Thats my take.

[chartpolski 23,562]

In the old days of Whippet racing, there was two schools of thought about "breaking a dogs wind" ! One was that if you gave a sprinter a run or two on a hare, they would find that bit more lung capacity to run better on the track! (Which I happened to agree with). The other thought on "breaking a dogs wind" was to road walk only, and then run a dog on the track every time possible untill it's lungs were gone and it couldn't run again !! These were the "blown dogs"; the ones that ran a hare or two seemed to have great lung capacity and were great racing dogs !

 

Cheers.

[stroller 341]

i have a little kelpie x grew and an older big saluki x grey and i would worry that when they were playing the little kelpie x was trying too hard and would be damaged i would physically restrain her, but to be honest she is slightly demented and it hasnt harmed her as she can catch the big hare (Potentially) dog without too much trouble. if she hadnt had the physical capability to catch the big dog but still had the drive to catch the dog would she have been potentially blown??

 

sometimes with young dogs you need to reel them in to keep them safe and other times you need to let them run to let them develop its a delicate balance

[riohog 5,701]

i have a little kelpie x grew and an older big saluki x grey and i would worry that when they were playing the little kelpie x was trying too hard and would be damaged i would physically restrain her, but to be honest she is slightly demented and it hasnt harmed her as she can catch the big hare (Potentially) dog without too much trouble. if she hadnt had the physical capability to catch the big dog but still had the drive to catch the dog would she have been potentially blown??

 

sometimes with young dogs you need to reel them in to keep them safe and other times you need to let them run to let them develop its a delicate balance

 

hear what you say stroller .. but dogs chasing each other . is no comparison to a dog running fast game for severall minuets . and the amount of times it runs !!........there is allways another day! for a run dont need to push a dog till it breaks .. like charti said .. a well bred dog with a strong instinct will just keep at it till its f..ked or the owner f,,ks it!!!!

[timber 90]

Dogs being blown as i understood it is damage to the lungs,diaphragm,ect.I also thought a dog that has been blown will recover and run again but will be short winded.Feeding a dog before running could do this kind of damage, stomach pressing on diaphragm.Thats my take.

Could a good vet diagnos for sure wether there as been damage to the lungs diaphram etc. ??

[down the road 1]

a lot of dogs run with there heads and more often then not a dogs head will tell them they have had enough.

[weasle 1,119]

Dogs being blown as i understood it is damage to the lungs,diaphragm,ect.I also thought a dog that has been blown will recover and run again but will be short winded.Feeding a dog before running could do this kind of damage, stomach pressing on diaphragm.Thats my take.

Could a good vet diagnos for sure wether there as been damage to the lungs diaphram etc. ??

I think a good greyhound vet would be able to see scar tissue in a xray.But im not sure, i will ask next time im there,but hopefully that wont be for a long time.

Edited October 10, 2010 by weasle

[sandymere 8,263]

Blown as a term can be due to a number of things, the most likely, especially in a young or unfit dog, is Rhabdomylysis resulting in long term kidney dysfunction of death, (this has been posted on before and a search of this section will give some results). There are a few other likely causes and the above bleeding from every orifice is likely due to a ruptured aortic aneurism likely from a pre existing weakness. The increased blood pressure of extreme exercise finds any weak spots in blood vessels be it in body or brain.

Although it is unlikely to be due to damage to the diaphragm or the lungs themselves it can be heart damage, ie a heart attack, which results in long term cardiac failure/ reduced function which means reduced exercise tolerance and can lead too fluid backlogging onto the lungs.

The lactic acid is not seen as the bad boy any more but rather a integral part of the process of cell respiration, google lactic shuttle.

The last off the top of my head would be a sudden dramatic drop in blood sugar causing a short term hypoglycemia but in truth it would be unlikely in anything other than a diabetic dog.

For me the favorites would be rhabdomylysis or a a heart attack as sight hounds are bred to push into the red and sometimes just push themselves to far especially when run unfit..