Ideation 8,216 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I posted this in the working dog health section but no one seems to read the threads there. Has anyone had a dog that has/had 'blown' itself. How did it happen, what were the symptoms and what exactly does this mean in terms of biology other than 'f****d itself permanently running too hard'? Cheers, Jai. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackpack 70 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 a good mate of mine had a 22 inch bitch, she was blown and he rested her for a season and she came good afterwards, steady exercise everyday but he never ran her Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stainlee 27 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I v always understood it to mean , damaging/rupturing the diaphram. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jt750 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Do you mean blown out as in burnt out ..can't perform ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morton 5,368 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Ive seen a few dogs blown,when they run and come back staggering like they are drunk,get them rapped up and warm,carry them back to the motor and dont run them hard for at least 2 weeks.Ive been out with lads that have let them recover and thought the dogs have a couple of runs left in them,its hard to bury a good dog just because the owner wouldnt listen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Yer i was thinking of blown as in, blown their lungs/diaphram (? Not sure which ?) leading to them being permanently knackered. I know you can tell when a dog gets back from the run, it usually comes back slow and collapses (from what i have heard). But how would you know after that? Once the dog has recovered enough to walk about etc? because i know some dogs live on for years after it has happened. Also why does it happen? Just running too long, too hard, or without warming up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,652 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I'd say a dog, (or any other mammall, come to that !), that ruptures a diaphragm is dead, simple as that ! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I'd say a dog, (or any other mammall, come to that !), that ruptures a diaphragm is dead, simple as that ! Cheers. Very true. I'm still confused Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,751 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 are you talking about a massive lactic acid build up in muscle . which can couse colapse ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 are you talking about a massive lactic acid build up in muscle . which can couse colapse ? I'm not EXACTLY sure what i'm talking about, but from what i have seen / heard its something to do with the respiratory system, and is usually permanent damage, although the dog can live for years onwards, but not run. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stroller 341 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 ive heard of this in ref to young dogs being pushed onto hares too young and always thought it meant some form of lung damage but never encountered it myself. had a 3/4 bred that would run itself to a standstill due to lactic acid build up it only happened once and i nearly shit myself i thought she was a goner but 30 mins later she was as right as rain not galloping about but normal walking about happy dog. as a result i never tried a dog on hare until i was happy it could cope this was all pre ban and even then i left the big, goat eyed, smelly feckers alone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,652 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 are you talking about a massive lactic acid build up in muscle . which can couse colapse ? Rio, I think a dog can be "blown", from many causes. One of the finest looking dogs I've seen, collapsed a couple of years ago after taking a massive amount of rabbits. A very well known guy off the sites was there and tryed everything;mouth to mouth, chest massage no avail. The emergency vet saved it's life but it was blind and paraplegic, so was obviously PTS. The diagnosis was an anueism on the brain; basicaly a stroke. Some dogs will run 'till they kill themselves, some owners will run their dogs'till they kill them ! I'ts all about knowing when enoughs enough. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morton 5,368 Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 The only dog ive seen blown and lived spent 2 days on a drip,it was rested and run again carefully but never reached its potential again.It was retired as a pet.I dont know if it was a physical or mental problem with the dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 ive heard of this in ref to young dogs being pushed onto hares too young and always thought it meant some form of lung damage but never encountered it myself. had a 3/4 bred that would run itself to a standstill due to lactic acid build up it only happened once and i nearly shit myself i thought she was a goner but 30 mins later she was as right as rain not galloping about but normal walking about happy dog. as a result i never tried a dog on hare until i was happy it could cope this was all pre ban and even then i left the big, goat eyed, smelly feckers alone I too have heard this with mainly either young or old dogs running a hare too far, too fast and ending up with some kind of lung damage. Apparently they suddenly open their mouths wide as if they suddenly cant breathe and then pull up. . . . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunterside Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I'd say a dog, (or any other mammall, come to that !), that ruptures a diaphragm is dead, simple as that ! Cheers. i know of a lurcher man and well known poacher from notts that ran a dog so hard he blown it, it pissed blood from most oriffices and it died on his kitchen floor needless to say he never had another dog off me again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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