Guest WEE WEE PANTS Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Oh, dont worry i will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Buttermilk Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 He showed me his ankle 5 days later, it looked like nothing TBH. I shook his hand, and that was that. The evidence they have is that my dog went for theirs, then they kicked f**k out of mine, i got her under control, and left the scene. He had a scratch, and i cant see how the dog did it tbh without more teeth marks, as she would have to latch on if she was meant. looks like his foot was caught in the kicking action. You have to mention that then when in court. Yes. I think the main thing is to remain calm and state the facts clearly and concisely. Don't become emotional or reactionary. Hopefully the other party will let themselves down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WEE WEE PANTS Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 i was calm even when apologising, and he couldnt even remember what had happened, then he was a smarmy little person, but accepted my apology, and shook hands. I even gave him my number so that i could apologise to his woman friend, and she never called. Im tempted to try and reason with him tomorrow in his shop, but maybe thats a bad idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Whippies 11 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Honesty is the best policy. You get caught out, you really will be f****d up and down by the court. You need to be more detailed on what's gone on. For example if you had a young dog you was actively training and it naively went to another dog despite your demands to recall then at least your intentions were good. Details like your dog, it's age, the ''victim's'' dog and age etc. Witnesses count so chase them up for support. The other owner will be playing the 'your dog bit them and it was unprovoked' line which falls under the dangerous dogs act. Arguing that they hit your dog will just get them to cry 'self defence'. By all means mention it but don't go over the top cos the court will see it as tit for tat. Because your dog was out of control, you'll also get your collar felt for that, but again if you can demonstrate your intentions were honourable your less likely to get the book thrown at you. However.... this person obtained medical treatment for their injury. If there was a bite, it'll be documented and evidence put forward. It should be noted that the 2 dogs were fighting and as such, the owner may well have been bitten by their own dog in the rumpus. If they decided to intervene then they took a risk of getting injured. Regardless of the remarks about you being screwed, the fact is if your truthful, regretful, being proactive and preferably employed. It'll be unlikely you'll get a serious arse kicking. Yes the dog was out of control, you cannot get out of that but whether it can be proven the dog is dangerous is something the court will decide depending on the evidence put forward which from what you say sounds very weak. My own opinion is that someone is being petty and blowing this all out of proportion. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the court felt this way too. You are definately not f**ked like some may think on here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Whippies 11 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 i was calm even when apologising, and he couldnt even remember what had happened, then he was a smarmy little person, but accepted my apology, and shook hands. I even gave him my number so that i could apologise to his woman friend, and she never called. Im tempted to try and reason with him tomorrow in his shop, but maybe thats a bad idea. Oh that's even better! Make sure you pass this info on! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Buttermilk Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 i was calm even when apologising, and he couldnt even remember what had happened, then he was a smarmy little person, but accepted my apology, and shook hands. I even gave him my number so that i could apologise to his woman friend, and she never called. Im tempted to try and reason with him tomorrow in his shop, but maybe thats a bad idea. Oh that's even better! Make sure you pass this info on! Definitely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DOVEY182009 12 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Most dogs u know aint socialised properly then Even the best socialised dogs aren't keen on a strange dog tearing up towards their owner when they're on a lead in my experience, especially if the can't read the dogs intentions: a patt mate non working.she is socialised, but after all this i noticed she was coming into season. My little JRT gets like that when she's coming into season. She runs up and flaunts herself at any dog that might be nearby. It might sound like a load of crap to some people, but with her docked tail the dogs she's running at to 'whore' herself too can't always read her intentions. For that reason alone I always put her on a lead round other dogs now. Hope everything works out for you pal, please don't think I was having a go earlier on in the thread. True mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 i was calm even when apologising, and he couldnt even remember what had happened, then he was a smarmy little person, but accepted my apology, and shook hands. I even gave him my number so that i could apologise to his woman friend, and she never called. Im tempted to try and reason with him tomorrow in his shop, but maybe thats a bad idea. Stay away from him bud.He sounds like a real prick.You could end up getting done for intimidating a witness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WEE WEE PANTS Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I can gain character references if needed as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WEE WEE PANTS Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Yes mate, thats what ive been thinking, my lass is worried like f**k. they reckon he is unstable, he left his car hand brake off 2 years ago, and it ended up on the train lines. And now he dont wear a seat belt, and drives erratically near a local school. Infact all over the place as thats what his job entails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Whippies 11 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Oh and tetanus isn't treatment for a dog bite. If he's really seen a Dr they'll have enquired if he's up to date with his tetanus. If he is, he'll of had no treatment if he hasn't he'll of been boostered. Either way if he's lying it shows his injury wasn't serious enough to seek medical attention and if he's telling the truth, the injury will have been documented because Dr's have to by law. and it still doesn't proove which dog bit him either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DOVEY182009 12 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Honesty is the best policy. You get caught out, you really will be f****d up and down by the court. You need to be more detailed on what's gone on. For example if you had a young dog you was actively training and it naively went to another dog despite your demands to recall then at least your intentions were good. Details like your dog, it's age, the ''victim's'' dog and age etc. Witnesses count so chase them up for support. The other owner will be playing the 'your dog bit them and it was unprovoked' line which falls under the dangerous dogs act. Arguing that they hit your dog will just get them to cry 'self defence'. By all means mention it but don't go over the top cos the court will see it as tit for tat. Because your dog was out of control, you'll also get your collar felt for that, but again if you can demonstrate your intentions were honourable your less likely to get the book thrown at you. However.... this person obtained medical treatment for their injury. If there was a bite, it'll be documented and evidence put forward. It should be noted that the 2 dogs were fighting and as such, the owner may well have been bitten by their own dog in the rumpus. If they decided to intervene then they took a risk of getting injured. Regardless of the remarks about you being screwed, the fact is if your truthful, regretful, being proactive and preferably employed. It'll be unlikely you'll get a serious arse kicking. Yes the dog was out of control, you cannot get out of that but whether it can be proven the dog is dangerous is something the court will decide depending on the evidence put forward which from what you say sounds very weak. My own opinion is that someone is being petty and blowing this all out of proportion. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the court felt this way too. You are definately not f**ked like some may think on here. Best advise put forward to u that mate, take everything said and [bANNED TEXT] happend and take it to ur solicitor, these blokes/women make mountains outa mole hills and know the law inside out and also know there way around most laws, get a gud 1 and u'll be ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Whippies 11 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Yes mate, thats what ive been thinking, my lass is worried like f**k. they reckon he is unstable, he left his car hand brake off 2 years ago, and it ended up on the train lines. And now he dont wear a seat belt, and drives erratically near a local school. Infact all over the place as thats what his job entails. Well I thought that before you even said this. Reasonably, what do you think a court's going to think of him?!!! We're talking about a what 18lb? patterdale terrier nipping him on the ankle at worst? In a dog fight that he chose to intervene in! TBH I'm with the person who mentioned countersuing over the couple assaulting your dog. I bloody would! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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zap 4 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 if it was me i would just tell the truth say you realise you were in the wrong for not having your dog on the lead explain you got to your dog as soon as possible and put it on the lead then you appoligised to the guy and asked if he and his dog where ok and he said yes you gave him your number and asked him to contact you once he was home and more settled which he never but because it was playing on your mind and you know how you would have felt in his position you visited him at the shop were he drew your attention to a scratch on his foot you found it to be nothing like a dog bite but as the guy once again accepted your appoligy and shook your hand you did not want to argue over the scratch and felt best to leave on what you believed was the end of the matter with a little luck the judge will think ah this guys a chancer and do nothing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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