lord of the fens 23 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 So we cant say Tyson would have beaten lewis or holyfield but you can say they'd beat tyson just cos they weight more? I dont think I saw Tyson fight anyone smaller than him. You call it hero worshipping, you might be right but that was the hype that surrounded this man. He could sell out stadiums the world over and yes it may have been free but I stayed up many a night till 2, 3 in the morning just to see him knock someone out within the first round!!! I wouldn't even flick the tv over during the X factor to watch Haye fight some giant freak.... Like i said,go read a superhero comic if you want excitement drama and hero worship.....top quality boxing is not always exciting or great to watch..... Tyson historically always struggled with tall men,Jose Ribalta,Mitch Green,Tillis,Bonecrusher etc were all 6ft 4 plus and he struggled with them and they were very average boxers....imagine what Lewis would have done to him ! Tyson ended up a cartoon character,if thats to be respected then maybe you shouldnt be questioning why you wouldnt flick the tv over to watch David Haye ! I bow to your superior knowledge and can tell if this was a boxing match, I'd have been counted out long ago lol. Your right about the hero worshipping and excitment drama isn't always seen in quality boxing but you have to understand, just like football, boxing has turned the corner when it accepted to follow the queens head. Its an entertainment business where it either entertaines to survive or goes bust. If you dont have exciting boxers that puts bums on seats you don't have a contest. There aren't enough purists around like yourself to keep the industry alive but there are plenty of folk like me wanting to see exciting styles of boxing. Like it or not, if Tyson got himself fit right now, he'd pull in a bigger global audiance than Haye will ever get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,309 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 what is wrong with ye,the man is a legand now we have kiltskigo or whatever you call him,haye,harrision,who the f**k else in this heavy weight game,who is there,tyson was classs a legend that everbody looked at and loved.dont put the man down he had a bad time can happen to anybody.he was a true legend in my eyes fair play iron mike "he had a bad time can happen to enyone" what can "rape" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lord of the fens 23 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 what is wrong with ye,the man is a legand now we have kiltskigo or whatever you call him,haye,harrision,who the f**k else in this heavy weight game,who is there,tyson was classs a legend that everbody looked at and loved.dont put the man down he had a bad time can happen to anybody.he was a true legend in my eyes fair play iron mike "he had a bad time can happen to enyone" what can "rape" A lot of people close to him and I'm including big name celebrities have put there reputation on the line by saying it wasn't rape. After hearing the circumstances I dont think it was but we wont know for sure and yes, he was convicted of it but a lot of innocent men have done time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benji benji 60 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 how can anyone stick up for a dirty rapist do they not have mothers or sisters it would be differnt he had raped them he wants hanging then cutting up and given away as dog food same as every other rapist and pedofile or they should gather all of them up and burn them in power stations and give us some free electric the dirty b*****ds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lord of the fens 23 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 how can anyone stick up for a dirty rapist do they not have mothers or sisters it would be differnt he had raped them he wants hanging then cutting up and given away as dog food same as every other rapist and pedofile or they should gather all of them up and burn them in power stations and give us some free electric the dirty b*****ds Cant disagree with that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Your right about the hero worshipping and excitment drama isn't always seen in quality boxing but you have to understand, just like football, boxing has turned the corner when it accepted to follow the queens head. Its an entertainment business where it either entertaines to survive or goes bust. If you dont have exciting boxers that puts bums on seats you don't have a contest. There aren't enough purists around like yourself to keep the industry alive but there are plenty of folk like me wanting to see exciting styles of boxing. Like it or not, if Tyson got himself fit right now, he'd pull in a bigger global audiance than Haye will ever get. Yep,cant argue with that......you only need to look at Hatton as a perfect example of what you say !....However,when we are talking what go,s on inside a boxing ring as opposed to selling the sport/media etc etc etc.......the truth usually comes out in the end.....and Tyson was no different !.....And if im honest the only thing that really interests me is what go,s on inside a boxing ring.All the best Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 A man who had it all and f****d it up.A fool.Dont tell him i said it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lord of the fens 23 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Your right about the hero worshipping and excitment drama isn't always seen in quality boxing but you have to understand, just like football, boxing has turned the corner when it accepted to follow the queens head. Its an entertainment business where it either entertaines to survive or goes bust. If you dont have exciting boxers that puts bums on seats you don't have a contest. There aren't enough purists around like yourself to keep the industry alive but there are plenty of folk like me wanting to see exciting styles of boxing. Like it or not, if Tyson got himself fit right now, he'd pull in a bigger global audiance than Haye will ever get. Yep,cant argue with that......you only need to look at Hatton as a perfect example of what you say !....However,when we are talking what go,s on inside a boxing ring as opposed to selling the sport/media etc etc etc.......the truth usually comes out in the end.....and Tyson was no different !.....And if im honest the only thing that really interests me is what go,s on inside a boxing ring.All the best You have my attention..... Right, you seem to know what your talking about whereas I just loved the guy for his exciting style etc. Can you tell me why you dont think he is as good as we think? Don't you think the parties etc before the Buster fight made him lose focus? I know you said Buster had problems too but he didn't think he was untouchable like tyson did. Look at Rooney at his ability on the field cos of off field activity. Never seen a guy lose confidence so much. Anyhow, I'd like to know from a guy who could see past the razzamatazz(cant be right!!) what he saw wrong in tyson in a ring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,938 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 thanks gnasher16 youve said it all for me mate,spot on yep , but exciting to watch.! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 The mans a genius. Probably the perfect photo to show how a great talent and athlete can turn into a scum hooligan.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lord of the fens 23 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 The mans a genius. Probably the perfect photo to show how a great talent and athlete can turn into a scum hooligan.......... LOL..... take it all back.... the guys nothing but a dirty f****n rapist!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guyver: Bioboosted Armor 6 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) Could have had his photo taken wearing a Celtic shirt. Then they could have accused him of being a child rapist BJK Edited October 4, 2010 by Guyver: Bioboosted Armor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macker 5 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 my mates used to wreck my head about tyson this and that. best ever in the world i always taught he just was not in their league even when he seemed invinsible. frazer fore man ali he would of been very lucky to get near the top 5 in those days. he should of never been allowed to box again after what he did. after all kids should look up to champions but not his type mack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theferreter 311 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 a f*****g headcase but a legend Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slingshot82 32 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Tyson wasnt the best fighter, we all know that. He didnt have style/real skill BUT he was a hard hitter. Most of his fights thats all that was needed, to stand a chance his opponents either needed speed to dodge or a solid chin. And most of them had neither Kyle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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