reynardhunter 3 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I live in Ireland and was wondering does anyone know where i could get some small ferrets, i have never seen any for sale in fact i,ve never seen small ferrets except in magazines, My own jills are pretty large and any hobs i,ve had have been like grizzleys, Also i,m looking for silver ferrets, Thanks Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Why would you want 'small' ferrets though, mate? Average rat has a body length of ten inches long, ye know. Rabbits? As ye must be well aware, they're (comparatively) huge, powerful brutes. Ive used tiny little ferrets, when I was young and barely started. Sure, they'll do their damndest against what ever ye put them down to. But, in all honesty; I think you'll find dinky little ferrets Are rare, for one very sound reason: Darwins Theory of Evolution! Quote Link to post
Ricky-N.p.p 0 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 you might be a bit quick to jump the gun there ditchie theres anough room in my team for all shapes and sizes. my uncle preffers small ferrets as its harder for them to hold rabbits therefor no kill ins see ?? and having seen them work they dont half shift those bunnys from the smaller sets at least but as i say i like a good mixture ...a tool for every job if ye like ! Quote Link to post
reynardhunter 3 Posted December 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Why would you want 'small' ferrets though, mate? Average rat has a body length of ten inches long, ye know. Rabbits? As ye must be well aware, they're (comparatively) huge, powerful brutes. Ive used tiny little ferrets, when I was young and barely started. Sure, they'll do their damndest against what ever ye put them down to. But, in all honesty; I think you'll find dinky little ferrets Are rare, for one very sound reason: Darwins Theory of Evolution! your probably right ditch, ps, love your gaff! Quote Link to post
bullsmilk 2 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 you might be a bit quick to jump the gun there ditchie theres anough room in my team for all shapes and sizes. my uncle preffers small ferrets as its harder for them to hold rabbits therefor no kill ins see ?? and having seen them work they dont half shift those bunnys from the smaller sets at least but as i say i like a good mixture ...a tool for every job if ye like ! your [bANNED TEXT] the rick but surly if a small ferret dosent kill in itle just be down the burry fighting to kill the bunny longer ...we both know them ferts DO NOT GIVE UP ON A KILL WHATEVER THERE SIZE lol Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 you might be a bit quick to jump the gun there ditchie ..... my uncle preffers small ferrets as its harder for them to hold rabbits therefor no kill ins see ?? ..... and having seen them work they dont half shift those bunnys from the smaller sets at least. Then it'll be a gun I've spent most of my lifetime in the jumping of, Ricky No kill ins with the smallest ferrets? No. But some gargantuan struggles when they met a rat down there. And some pretty damn harsh kickings from rabbits they were likely trying to kill, or move from an 'Arse Up'. (Of course, these days, they'd be spaded down to, long before either antagonist could make any headway ) I was never particularly blessed with the freedom of choice over which buries I worked. Massive, dowland chalk fortresses or little, hedge bottom four holers. They all needed clearing. Thus, over the decades, I refined my own preferances to ~ as I recently suggested else where on here ~ putting in both some jills of average size and one good, strong hob. Crafty bit was in their Feeding Fed right, they'd hunt for the fun of it. If a jill had an arse up? The hob would soon find her and push the recalcitrant rabbit out. I'd found working with only dinkies left me no such option. Thus I learned the art of patience! Talking of big ol' hobs: I had no cine camera, so can't back this up in the modern fashion, but I've no reason to lie to ye. On more than one occassion I found my last hob, " Pot " actually dragging a rabbit out of the bury! He let me take it and went back to work. On another, most memorable occassion, same ferret was working a hedge when he popped out and wandered off along the ditch. Before I could reach him he clamboured up the bank and went off into some rough vegetation beyond. Having got through the fence, I found him scratching anxiously at a bit of old tin. K? Can you imagine my astonishment, delight and pride when I lifted that leaf debri piece of tin ~ to find myself staring, wide eyed, at the back of a bloody rabbit?! Work That one out, mate. Because I'm damned if I can! ReynardHunter; I love my place too! Quote Link to post
Guest Magwitch Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 (edited) i work small jills but also has Ditch says work a normal sized hob along side them, i found small jills leave a few down the bury but if i put i hob in he clears the holes and takes no prisoners. they work in different ways the hobs are slow but methodical the jill fast and furious. this combo works for me :thumbs-up: Edited December 19, 2006 by Magwitch Quote Link to post
COMPO 54 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 in my opinion medium sized jill's are best, in fact any jill that will work, size is really comparative, i wouldn't go on a fruitless search for "greyhound" ferrets My uncle who has been round ferrets and hunting dogs longer than most on here have been alive, said to me last time i saw him, " greyhound ferrets, the reason we used to be able to find such small ferrets was for one reason........they were malnourished as loads of idiots fed them on bread and milk ........he then told me about how he has always fed meat and that in his opinion the small ferrets he used to see were a result of being fed down rather than bred down....ferrets are bigger now as they achieve there genetic potential as they receive better diets.............." i think i agree with my uncle, better fed larger ferrets work better than malnourished runts now i expect someone to post pics of a small meat fed ferret, i am sure the exist, people are all different sizes, but consistently small ferrets only come from malnourished stock Quote Link to post
DiStuRBeD 0 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 possible compo, ive got a rather small ferret here, and ive sene some bloody large jills, as bit as my old hob Quote Link to post
Rabbithunter 456 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 i have a small jill and she has the heart of a lion when working... theres not many she won't shift. Yes, digging to her is a real pain, as the rabbits just tend to drag her about a bit. SO if she gets onto a rabbit, you've gotta let her stay with it for a while.... Quote Link to post
Guest Hedgehunter Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 When I were a young lad we always used small jills with a large hob as liner,on a full day ferreting we would take maybe 4 or more jills as they would tire out.Now I only work hobs,more stamina and more capable of taking a kicking from a bunny. Quote Link to post
jacob 28 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 When I were a young lad we always used small jills with a large hob as liner,on a full day ferreting we would take maybe 4 or more jills as they would tire out.Now I only work hobs,more stamina and more capable of taking a kicking from a bunny. [/quote i prefer small jills ,theyre less likely to kill and lay up,some of the ferrets around these days are like feckin cats i wouldnt have one as a gift.if you like diggin get a big hob.and as for feedin them on bread and water they wouldnt stay small theyd get rickets.and whats darwins theory got to do with it?we want the ferret to work for us not itself ,strongest ,fittest, no, one that will simply bolt the rabbit will do for me. Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 and whats darwins theory got to do with it? Simply put mate; Weedy creatures, incapable of dealing with their prey, don't get to survive. They get the living sh!t kicked out of them. They get weakened by the repeated experiance. They die. Ferrets are taken aside from Darwins theory of Natural Selection only because people are on hand to send on substitutes and otherwise aid and abbett their efforts. Show me a three year old, natural born and bred, wild Polecat of around the six inch mark and I'll declare Darwin a c*nt Personally ~ as stated above ~ I prefer to work with a rabbits worse nightmare. NOT a minor irritant. That's all. But each to his own Quote Link to post
Ron Weasley 83 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Ditchie, you talk a lot of sense all the time mate. Quote Link to post
COMPO 54 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 [.and as for feedin them on bread and water they wouldnt stay small theyd get rickets. i think perhaps you need to look at children from deprived area's of the world(proper starvation/malnutrition not kids in the country put into poverty by there parents spending the dole money on drugs/cigs/booze), a child that has not been fed correctly will attain adulthood, but they wont be as big and as healthy as they should be! this is a fact! Quote Link to post
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