are you a purist

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Good questions Cleanspade.

Those that would go outside are more than likely the purists "Working Terrier Purists". Asked a mate what did he think made the best working terrier, his answer "Border X Lakeland". I tend to concur that first cross makes for some real good working terriers as long as they are out of type purisits that have bred best worker to best worker.

 

In other words it is all good as long as the folks arranging the breeding have thier heads in the right place. Best worker to best worker reguardless of if you are a type purist or a working terrier purist will never be bad thing for working terriers.

Sorry mate but you are IMO way off the mark .If the two parents are that good then put them to another of the same breed .Too many people breeding for the sake of it and not for the right reason which is to provide future workers ,nothing else .Ive seen plenty of the sort you speak about but not many go on to reproduce anything decent .Maybe fixing something with a brother ,sister mating may work but times too precious for maybe's.The breeds were created by men who knew the game and knew what they wanted and to most of us that holds true today ,why f**k up years of creation by bastardising a breed that contains the right genes for the job .Better to not breed than to rely on hybrid vigour .

 

Foxdigger IMO this pretty much says it all "The breeds were created by men who knew the game and knew what they wanted and to most of us that holds true today " Those men knew what they wanted and where not put off by words like "bastardized". They did what it took to make a dog that fit the vision they had and in instances where so succesful that thier outcomes developed into breeds for type purists to get all uptight about.

 

If a man has a vision I say go for it. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain just make sure that you follow tried and true principals in your choice of breeding animals. Leaving the breeding to type purists will do nothing to further the working terrier, following that principal years from now we will only have what exists today or possibly even less as the drag of the breed creeps through. If leaving the breeding to breed purists was successful do you think the Patterdale would of ever developed to where this fairly young type has gained the popularity it finds today?

 

I am not against breed purists but I do support the therory that there is room for the visionary as well. Most of the visions will evaporate and thereby do no harm but those that do succeed will give those that follow a better tool kit to both work with and choose from.

[Cleanspade 3,322]

i agree with the above post. 100 per cent. one example springs to mind. the mateing of the ilfracolm badger digging dogs to the fell terriers. produced some good terriers. and i'm sure there are other examples. i also beleive that a dog from good working stock weather tested or not has as much potential to throw the same or better quality as its siblings that past with flying colours.

i wouldnt recomend useing anything but the best tested to the best tested. but in breeding nothing is set in stone. one of the most inteligent and best workers ive seen to ground was a pet to pet breeding. as long as folk are HONEST. and OPEN. about how they go about things.

[moddey-dhoo 39]

it depends how far you go....http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=44215931

Edited October 2, 2010 by moddey-dhoo

[felltool 5]

i would not breed froma bitch like this but no a few that do they just see £££££££££££ signs to me both have got to be real grafters

 

good point their mate, would you ever buy a pup from such a bitch ?

Edited October 2, 2010 by felltool

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I wanted to add one thing to this thread and bring it back up. Based on the statement above, "The breeds were created by men who knew the game and knew what they wanted and to most of us that holds true today ". Is the game indeed the same as it was when the vision was established? I know for the US things have changed and am pretty sure things across the pond did too. So are the original visions still valid based on what is legal or not. I think this is an interesting topic. Just wanted others take on it.