are you a purist

[tinytiger 854]

lets say if you had a bitch out realy good lines and she fails.Would you use a realy good working dog over and see what you get ?

 

 

no ,id take her out of the genepool altogether ,one way or an other.

 

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Heres a link to a good book that tells you why,once vital genes have been lost from an individual within a breed they arent going to fall out of the sky and appear in her litter.Maybe if the dog is a super worker then you might be o.k but the dirt is sure to come out eventually.It does even when you breed best to best.

[Hagen 11]

Tight linebreeding, with an out if it needs, throw the highest percentage of that what you want.

[scent 509]

lets say if you had a bitch out realy good lines and she fails.Would you use a realy good working dog over and see what you get ?

jesus why put her in pup if she fails ..............PTS

[wexford Pa 84]

lets say if you had a bitch out realy good lines and she fails.Would you use a realy good working dog over and see what you get ?

jesus why put her in pup if she fails ..............PTS

exactly, ur a playin a lottery breeding dirt n lets face ur not numbers arent looking good.. Call time on her n take her out of any breeding system.. You'l never have anythin of any good in ur yard + you'l waste time n effort and have nothing to show for it but a sore head from hittin against a brick wall..

.... Pa

[Hagen 11]

lets say if you had a bitch out realy good lines and she fails.Would you use a realy good working dog over and see what you get ?

jesus why put her in pup if she fails ..............PTS

 

I think it's not so easy to say.

It could be succesful if all other is compatible.

I know some examples in APBT-breeding.

But generally, ...don't do it.

[moddey-dhoo 39]

lets say if you had a bitch out realy good lines and she fails.Would you use a realy good working dog over and see what you get ?

jesus why put her in pup if she fails ..............PTS

 

I think it's not so easy to say.

It could be succesful if all other is compatible.

I know some examples in APBT-breeding.

But generally, ...don't do it.

 

 

sounds like you would breed from untested terriers, what do you keep and are they working earth dogs ?

[Hagen 11]

sounds like you would breed from untested terriers, what do you keep and are they working earth dogs ?

 

I'm a rookie in earth dogs.

I have 3 Patterdale prospects. One is a 100% Nuttall from the old stuff. One is from Nuttall x Pickaxe ancestors. One from Nuttall x G.Mason x Gould ancestors.

This season will be my first.

 

Before I have had APBTs since 1982.

[jimmy 76]

i would not breed froma bitch like this but no a few that do they just see £££££££££££ signs to me both have got to be real grafters

[Hagen 11]

i would not breed froma bitch like this but no a few that do they just see £££££££££££ signs to me both have got to be real grafters

 

I am wondering that the word money is often spoken with breeding.

I know nobody who is able to make more money with dogs than with work.

Add the time together that you have to spend for the dogs, and subtract the costs for food, kennel, vet, .... , from the money you have earned.

What do you think is your clear profit per hour?

[cdnhastings 23]

I want to hear about hybrid vigour, associated with first generation outcross breeding. I am for best to best, not always by breed or type. Its all a gamble really isn't it? I'm saying I'm okay stepping up to the best to best outcross gambling table and playing those odds. maybe I'm nieve (is that how you spell it? Im not saying i go out and look intentionally for outcrossed terriers , but if one came across my path from proven workers that i have seen work (both of em) than i think id find the kennel space to give the pup a home.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,101]

lets say if you had a bitch out realy good lines and she fails.Would you use a realy good working dog over and see what you get ?

No mate ,i would dig a hole and start again .

[Squirrel_Basher 17,101]

I want to hear about hybrid vigour, associated with first generation outcross breeding. I am for best to best, not always by breed or type. Its all a gamble really isn't it? I'm saying I'm okay stepping up to the best to best outcross gambling table and playing those odds. maybe I'm nieve (is that how you spell it? Im not saying i go out and look intentionally for outcrossed terriers , but if one came across my path from proven workers that i have seen work (both of em) than i think id find the kennel space to give the pup a home.

Hybrid vigour is only short term mate ,meaning it applies to the present and not the future,best to aim for traits that are bred in generation after generation .Two closely relayed types however are perfect and will set genes for the long term .I wouldnt turn down a good pup either mate but breeding it would be a different thing altogether.

[liam mc 18]

lets say if you had a bitch out realy good lines and she fails.Would you use a realy good working dog over and see what you get ?

No mate ,i would dig a hole and start again .

Its the same with all genes 2 litter brothers one works good he has the genes, if the other doesnt work good he doesnt carry the genes same with bitches if not passed directly they wont filter through

[morton 5,368]

Id always look for the best working dog available,regardless of breed or type,to line my bitch.

[Moorsman 17]

Once tried matin the best Airedale to best Yorkshire terrier but the Airedale run off with it stuck to his cock.never did find out about that litter.is that the type of stuff your on about.