deerhound info

[blackpack 70]

Sp what are the top working lines other than doxhope or platts stuff they can't be the only two in the country who breed workers

theres alot of lads breeding true workers just keep quiet about it

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

 

Dan I'm curious to know what you'd recommend to the OP? I don't think a lot of folks on here have experience of the terrain, and types of dogs used on it, in the US. Is there a type that feel would be useful for the work mentioned? 'Cause it seems a rather tall order for one dog.

 

 

Its seems it cuz it is.

[davey 310]

Sp what are the top working lines other than doxhope or platts stuff they can't be the only two in the country who breed workers

theres alot of lads breeding true workers just keep quiet about it :thumbs:If you know of any buddy can you pm me as I'm after a bitch pup

[Helen 2]

Wish I could have found a working line dog when I got mine I'd looked for ages and rung around. It was either a show line or nothing so I bought show line. He will make a half hearted effort but theres no intensity. Two of my other dogs are good on rabbits and the info I've picked up on here has been really useful but I would have like to have worked my Deerhound. I have found in the past people say show line dogs can work and they can but it's only when you see them next to the real deal you realise working line every time.

[Borat 8]

Wish I could have found a working line dog when I got mine I'd looked for ages and rung around. It was either a show line or nothing so I bought show line. He will make a half hearted effort but theres no intensity. Two of my other dogs are good on rabbits and the info I've picked up on here has been really useful but I would have like to have worked my Deerhound. I have found in the past people say show line dogs can work and they can but it's only when you see them next to the real deal you realise working line every time.

 

 

The Deerhound sire to my dog was Kilbourne going back to Arkinglass.. And did everything pre ban..

[Romany 1,065]

Sp what are the top working lines other than doxhope or platts stuff they can't be the only two in the country who breed workers

theres alot of lads breeding true workers just keep quiet about it

 

Theres not many as you think breeding true workers, unless you live in Ireland, some people kill the odd rabbit with their deerhound and it automatically becomes a working deerhound. Pre ban at organised deerhound coursing I witnessed deerhounds that wouldnt run a hare that lifted in front of them, or ones that were running so half heartedly it was un-reasl, then, there were the propper workers. The ones that were crap were later advertised as working deerhounds. "The deerhound club dosnt want working deerhounds" and only a small number of enthusiasts have ever tried truely to keep the breed a working one. Deerhound people want show dogs, thats what, for them, gets the stud fees, puppy sales wins a championship shows etc. Some tried to just on the bandwagon of advertising their deerhounds ar work/show..Another piece of crap, a show dog needs to look like a wolfhound, a worker needs to be able to work.

Of course some show lines did work as well as show, and Ive had the great pleasure to have witnessed some of the best of this (small bunch)..but not now. Rosslyn Carrick (half sister to one of my deerhounds)was then record holder of having the most CC`s in the breed was a cracking coursing bitch, there are others too. There were breeds whose owners rarely entered the coursing arena but whose deerhounds produced good workers (Rosslyn, Rohanis, Ingleby) Classing a deerhound to be a worker because its killed the odd rabbit or hare is not enough imo..they have to do the job season after season after season.

Edited September 30, 2010 by Romany

[Guest chook]

Sp what are the top working lines other than doxhope or platts stuff they can't be the only two in the country who breed workers

theres alot of lads breeding true workers just keep quiet about it

 

Theres not many as you think breeding true workers, unless you live in Ireland, some people kill the odd rabbit with their deerhound and it automatically becomes a working deerhound. Pre ban at organised deerhound coursing I witnessed deerhounds that wouldnt run a hare that lifted in front of them, or ones that were running so half heartedly it was un-reasl, then, there were the propper workers. The ones that were crap were later advertised as working deerhounds. "The deerhound club dosnt want working deerhounds" and only a small number of enthusiasts have ever tried truely to keep the breed a working one. Deerhound people want show dogs, thats what, for them, gets the stud fees, puppy sales wins a championship shows etc. Some tried to just on the bandwagon of advertising their deerhounds ar work/show..Another piece of crap, a show dog needs to look like a wolfhound, a worker needs to be able to work.

 

Actualy you will find a lot of the deerhound people dont want to loose the working side of the deerhound,

they feel its verry much part of what a deerhound is, but with the ban on hunting deer with dogs

the show strain is taking over and the working side is slowley being lost,

A lot are trying to keep the working side of there dogs verry much alive and a lot dont want the strain spliit

like it has done with greyhounds and other working breeds.

[davey 310]

Sp what are the top working lines other than doxhope or platts stuff they can't be the only two in the country who breed workers

theres alot of lads breeding true workers just keep quiet about it

 

Theres not many as you think breeding true workers, unless you live in Ireland, some people kill the odd rabbit with their deerhound and it automatically becomes a working deerhound. Pre ban at organised deerhound coursing I witnessed deerhounds that wouldnt run a hare that lifted in front of them, or ones that were running so half heartedly it was un-reasl, then, there were the propper workers. The ones that were crap were later advertised as working deerhounds. "The deerhound club dosnt want working deerhounds" and only a small number of enthusiasts have ever tried truely to keep the breed a working one. Deerhound people want show dogs, thats what, for them, gets the stud fees, puppy sales wins a championship shows etc. Some tried to just on the bandwagon of advertising their deerhounds ar work/show..Another piece of crap, a show dog needs to look like a wolfhound, a worker needs to be able to work.

Of course some show lines did work as well as show, and Ive had the great pleasure to have witnessed some of the best of this (small bunch)..but not now. Rosslyn Carrick (half sister to one of my deerhounds)was then record holder of having the most CC`s in the breed was a cracking coursing bitch, there are others too. There were breeds whose owners rarely entered the coursing arena but whose deerhounds produced good workers (Rosslyn, Rohanis, Ingleby) Classing a deerhound to be a worker because its killed the odd rabbit or hare is not enough imo..they have to do the job season after season after season.

So would you be able to help me find a good solid breeder of working deerhounds then ? Many thanks

[sandymere 8,263]

How about a lab based lurcher? a 3/4 bred could well do reasonable at most of what you want. Likely common as hens teeth in USA though. Get a greyhound over one of you labs then another over on of the 1st cross as to start breeding your own might be the only way.

 

I'm not tryin to start trouble but by the time that you got a lab based lurcher any good on our deer there would be about 1/32nd lab in it. Maybe different in other parts of the states but where I live, you best have a dog that can run cuz you aint gonna catch a damn thing without it. I assume its that way everywhere though.

I've not run your deer but I recon a good racey 3/4 grey 1/4 lab would be fatser than most purebred deerhounds, the lurcher still might note catch but would stand a better chance of getting contact. There are a few that run deer, in the past of cause, and none used purebreds, the best was a german shepherd cross, bit of a monster.

[Borat 8]

The sire to my dog who's now eight, was a Kilbourne Deerhound going back to Arkinglass.. Infact, I'd say most Deerhounds went back to Arkinglass - these dogs were "dual" purpose as everyone who knowns Deerhound breeding should know....

I cant see how in the relative short time of the Hunting Ban how the working ability has been bred out of the kennels that show.. It's no difference to Kennel Club registerd Saluki's.. They can still do the job..

These "show" deerhounds I've seen lived up to their name..

Edited September 30, 2010 by Borat

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

How about a lab based lurcher? a 3/4 bred could well do reasonable at most of what you want. Likely common as hens teeth in USA though. Get a greyhound over one of you labs then another over on of the 1st cross as to start breeding your own might be the only way.

 

I'm not tryin to start trouble but by the time that you got a lab based lurcher any good on our deer there would be about 1/32nd lab in it. Maybe different in other parts of the states but where I live, you best have a dog that can run cuz you aint gonna catch a damn thing without it. I assume its that way everywhere though.

I've not run your deer but I recon a good racey 3/4 grey 1/4 lab would be fatser than most purebred deerhounds, the lurcher still might note catch but would stand a better chance of getting contact. There are a few that run deer, in the past of cause, and none used purebreds, the best was a german shepherd cross, bit of a monster.

 

Ya, might be faster than a purebred deerhound for sure but still aint catchin our deer. Any dog can get lucky but to go out and lamp our deer you better have a rocket with you.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

It's no difference to Kennel Club registerd Saluki's.. They can still do the job..

 

 

 

 

Do you honestly f****n believe that?

[hedz31 1,308]

It's no difference to Kennel Club registerd Saluki's.. They can still do the job..

 

 

 

 

Do you honestly f****n believe that?

Book em dano lol

[Borat 8]

It's no difference to Kennel Club registerd Saluki's.. They can still do the job..

 

 

 

 

Do you honestly f****n believe that?

 

 

I've seen it with my own eyes at Saluki coursing meets before the ban... So I honestly f****n believe that.. Ruweis Salukis - Karen Fisher - The home of smooth and feathered Salukis from recent desert bred origins, is well known for showing her Salukis and did very well at coursing meets in the past.. And she aint the only one..

Below is a "show" bred saluki from before the UK hunting ban owned by a good friend.. That saluki is now 13 and has two CC'S and 1 Reserve CC from the show ring..

Edited September 30, 2010 by Borat

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

I've seen it with my own eyes at Saluki coursing meets before the ban... So I honestly f****n believe that

 

 

I'm glad somebody has seen it.