aussy pigg

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

Why even reply to this idiot's comments in the first place? He's an Aussie spastic who obviously hasn't got a clue about terriers, just ignore the div he doesn't deserve the forum space.

[hedz31 1,308]

lol, what a bunch of old geese you guys are.

So frickin tetchy aint ya? Babbling on and on about how wonderful you are and how shite everyone else is, it's laughable. It's like I'm watching Coronation Street or something.

 

I merely made a comment on another topic that patts look like they have staff in them. That's it.

I then made comments that you don't need a purebred terrier to work earth, fact.

 

Yes, linebreeding is the go for any chance of reliable pups, and that's what I was on about.

If you have a mixed breed dog from working proven mixed breed parents and grandparents and great grandparents then you are on to a winner line.

If you cross these dogs with another proven line of mixed breeds you are adding stuff to them.

It aint rocket science.

 

Settle down petals, you might give yourselves an aneurism.

you never said anything like that pal you said patts have stafford in them and they should have stafford in them to be able to kill foxes and terriers get hammered etc etc i dont use pure bred terriers ,i use fells that are line bred they have nothing in them but working terrier to working terrier i cant decide on you yet your either just one of those blokes that thinks they know it all or your an anti or a complete spastic what ever you are you have shot yourself on this site with the shite you have dribbled are you sure your an ozzie or not just a wind up merchant getting a rise and what is an ozzie doing watching coranation street

[hedz31 1,308]

pal weve all seen different dogs and terriers pre ban do you think the stafford is a new invention or something ive seen a few staffords turn there nose up at the end of a dig after a terrier half its weight has done 3 or 4 hours holding it there,thats why stafford blood is rarely used and other bull blood or wheaten blood is prefered ive seen different bull breeds turn there nose when the going got tough ive yet to this day to see a wheaten turn its nose up

[bullxryno 21]

LOVE a good slagging match!!

 

 

ATB RYNO

[hedz31 1,308]

LOVE a good slagging match!!

 

 

ATB RYNO

you just love a good slagging you man whore

[spindolero 1,111]

pal weve all seen different dogs and terriers pre ban do you think the stafford is a new invention or something ive seen a few staffords turn there nose up at the end of a dig after a terrier half its weight has done 3 or 4 hours holding it there,thats why stafford blood is rarely used and other bull blood or wheaten blood is prefered ive seen different bull breeds turn there nose when the going got tough ive yet to this day to see a wheaten turn its nose up

 

good point

[kevin kiely 66]

empty vessels make the most noise!springs to mind,i dont think the terrier lads are in need of advice from oz,for digging charlie imo.

[Malt 379]

That is a observation and a FACT, it's not an opinion or a criticism for f**k's sake!!!

 

You don't need muscle and power to work a fox in a confined space, & where do you think the bull terrier got it's drive from in the first place...?

[hedz31 1,308]

Aussie pigger your the man can i come digging with you one day i feel i need re educating

[hedz31 1,308]

aussie theres loads of peeps on here who have bull x terrier check the bull russel thread and the patterdales most of them have bull shape heads and i think there will be loads of pepole who have been doing it for years i also think it will be the lads who will hunt anywere at anytime with or without permission who dont want a baying type dog

Let me guess you have a bull x terrier in your kennels and your right they have been around sometime derek wheelers been doing them since the 80s and theres a few good ones about weve all tried them,i know a few who use them they do no different to the terriers many lads own out there with no bull blood in them and putting bull to russell why do you think that is ???? because there not bred to be hard so putting bull blood in them in the first place is stupid if you wanted a hard terrier buy one from a hard line of fell or lakeland

[hedz31 1,308]

aussie theres loads of peeps on here who have bull x terrier check the bull russel thread and the patterdales most of them have bull shape heads and i think there will be loads of pepole who have been doing it for years i also think it will be the lads who will hunt anywere at anytime with or without permission who dont want a baying type dog

 

Yep, tomas, and my question to all the terrier blokes who think the pure terrier is the be all and end all is ''why are so many peeps putting bull blood in their terriers?

I'd hazard a guess and say that the working terrier of today is not the same animal the working terrier of yesterday was so people want to add some bull blood to get it back to where it was.

I will repeat, for all those dumb fucks who don't read too well, YES there are still pure bred terriers out there that can do the job. But you gotta ask yourself WHY are so many blokes adding bull blood to their lines? It can't just be for looks, for status...there are many pure breed bulls that have way more status than a small bull and terrier type would have.

The blokes doing it are trying to get their terriers back to where they once were, before the show ring spoiled the majority of them.

 

Tomas, I bet half the ''terriermen'' on here wouldn't call you a hunter just cos your dog has bull blood. Wouldn't matter how many brushes you have hanging in yer shed/barn, they won't see you as a hunting man.

 

I, on the other hand, see you as a reaal dog man, not scared to buck the system and breed a dog that will work for you.

Thumbs up for that, mate.

All it takes is 9 generations of good linebreeding to get fairly reliable dogs every litter. Keep at it and show these purists.

jesus christ you are hard work pigger boy where the hell are all these blokes that are putting bull to there terriers ?????????and what the hell are you on about show ring terriers you really are a lost cause we dont use show terriers you tit we stay well away from them please pal just go read a book or go speak to someone every post you make you look more and more a fool

[jonesy 111]

Well just to but in on this occasion"a good terrier is rare as rocking horse shit"what a load of bollocks,yes there is some shite terriers about in England,but there is also plenty good ones,as im sure it is exactly the same in Australia, you just got to know where to look for them.

[hedz31 1,308]

I can read books and I can read posts on this forum. I read over and over on this forum that a good fox worker is a rare find. I read over and over about failed earth dogs, I read over and over bitchy comments from other terrier owners about how shite such and such a line of dog is.

I also read over and over about how some blokes are trying to up the game and get some decent reliable dogs. Some try using pure terrier blood, others are trying using an injection of bull blood..

 

As for show ring dogs, this country's hunting laws are so stringent that there are really not that many blokes using terriers anymore, compared to the old days. Therefore the available blood is more scarce than it was before the hunting laws. I can imagine that, in the good ole days, the working terrier was a force to be reckoned with, But now, a good one is rarer than rocking horse shit.

Tell me if I'm wrong.

 

It's like an American Staff compared to a game bred pitbull. Both dogs look similar but they are no longer the same in attitude and ability.

a good fox worker is a rare find hahahahahahahahahaha seriously do you do stand up ????? your a card and a half

[Stabs 3]

As for show ring dogs, this country's hunting laws are so stringent that there are really not that many blokes using terriers anymore, compared to the old days. Therefore the available blood is more scarce than it was before the hunting laws. I can imagine that, in the good ole days, the working terrier was a force to be reckoned with, But now, a good one is rarer than rocking horse shit.

Tell me if I'm wrong.

 

 

 

I honestly think the reverse is true. Read back in the old FMWTC yearbooks and you'll see how many double, trebled, (and more) their dogs. Not to say some don't do that still (I know they do), but the single handed dog has come to the fore in more recent times. I honestly think some lads (and some are on here) have moved the tworking terrier along to places they've rarely been in the past....and I'm talking about digging dogs here. If I wanted a decent digging dog, I am lucky enough to know plenty of places to go knocking, so I'm not sure you're getting the big picture Aussie.

 

If I understand you correctly, if you can't find anything but second grade terriers, you propose to breed them to bulls? I wouldn't be breeding them full stop. I don't understand breeding from anything second grade. Apologies if I have misunderstood you.

[Bosun11 537]

Think you've hit the nail on the head there Stabs

 

I fully understand where AP is coming from in this, i'm sure that 'back home' folks may have the option of trying to create sommat to do a specific job and if it does hey ho, your a winner! It certainly wouldn't matter to me what any dog looked like or what it's bred out of as long as it performes.

 

What I would add though is that trying to create an animal that will place it's self in a totaly alien enviroment to seek and destroy an animal that it would not eat and most imprortantly 'stay there until dug too', no matter how long it takes and may lose it's life in that pursuit, takes a little more than tryin 'odds and sods' and that includes any outcross! Hundreds of years have been put into this, it'd take a wee bit more than a few years to start from scratch.

 

Real working terriers, dogs that find deep and stay till dug, week in week out, are a cherished item and rightly so!