aussy pigg

[gonetoearth 5,144]

why lock it

[david brightmore 13]

why lock it

 

WHAT A NOB HEAD LAKEYS BORDERS RUSSLES NO GOOD FOR NOTHING BUT RABBITING STICK TO PIGS MATE

[hedz31 1,308]

the mans a genius,hes been sent to britain to re-educate us ,terrier work and breeding as we know it is about to all be changed bow boys the messiah is here

[stevemac 434]

the mans a genius,hes been sent to britain to re-educate us ,terrier work and breeding as we know it is about to all be changed bow boys the messiah is here

 

Makes a change from you lot emigrating out here thinking you have been sent by the queen to re educate us on all and sundry.

[Rik 49]

[david brightmore 13]

What a bunch of petulant little girls you are!!!

 

''Oh no, somebody is claiming that our dogs aren't the most versatile hunting creatures ever developed by man, he must be an asshole''

 

Sheesh, I have seen and worked with hundreds of hunting dogs for over 20 years, for foxes, pigs, roos, rabbits etc etc etc in Australia. Difference is when an aussie asks a question or makes an observation other aussies will see it for what it is and will either not comment or will supply an answer or some advice.

Here you girls just spit your dummies out and take your bats and balls and go home.

Let's face it, I have read on here dozens of times that such and such a line of terrier is no good, won't go to earth etc etc etc. There is a reason for that.

 

In Australia people aren't fixated on using show breeds and trying to get them to have fire in their bellies. They aren't scared of mixing breeds to get what they want, and that goes for foxes too, not just pigs.

 

You lot need to grow some balls, stop believing your patterdales and lakies can handle any quarry and get some common sense.

 

I have said many times that I admire a good terrier, problem is, they are not the be all and end all of dogs.

 

Take your best hunting patterdale to australia and I guarantee there'll be a mixed line of mutt already working foxes that would put your average patt to shame.

 

Grow up ladies.

 

grow up ladies mate it has to be said keep reading ur books mate then you might get to learn more about the working terrier of england , ireland ,scotland and wales and the quarry they were and still used for.

i do agree there is some shit about at the minute but to make a statement to say that lakeys and pats russle borders

are good for nothing is wrong you are going to take some shit for it .

[hedz31 1,308]

your not in australia no more are you though lad and things and dogs are done different here we dont have roos and boar what you have you came on this site and posted a thread in the wrong context what got folks backs up and made you look stupid fair enough you may of had decent lurchers etc but its plain to see your no terrier man anybody can see that so dont try and preach to folk that have done it for years and years and live for it

[hedz31 1,308]

the mans a genius,hes been sent to britain to re-educate us ,terrier work and breeding as we know it is about to all be changed bow boys the messiah is here

 

Makes a change from you lot emigrating out here thinking you have been sent by the queen to re educate us on all and sundry.

us lot emigrating over there ????? are you not from europe originaly like because i thought native australians who decend from there were black your all bloody emigrants pal

[bannyboy 3]

I've never said they were good for nothing, mate. I've just said they are not the be all and end all of dogs.

But some blokes on here act as though I've just fondled their missus when they hear the slightest criticism.

 

I have said it over and over, there are some great terriers and there are some shit terriers. There are more shit terriers than there are great terriers.

My point is, what is wrong with mixing up some breeding and tailor making a dog that will be just what you want?

ie patterdale/staff over a patterdale (or anything really).

 

Some of the best fox dogs I saw in Australia had beagle/staff and JRT in them.

Brian Plummer is not dead,he has moved to Australia

[david brightmore 13]

I've never said they were good for nothing, mate. I've just said they are not the be all and end all of dogs.

But some blokes on here act as though I've just fondled their missus when they hear the slightest criticism.

 

I have said it over and over, there are some great terriers and there are some shit terriers. There are more shit terriers than there are great terriers.

My point is, what is wrong with mixing up some breeding and tailor making a dog that will be just what you want?

ie patterdale/staff over a patterdale (or anything really).

 

Some of the best fox dogs I saw in Australia had beagle/staff and JRT in them.

 

ha ha welcome to the hunting life forums [fondled their missus] class you will not here about the good ones

mate they have to much to lose its probably been done already most pats have a lot of bull in them already would

most likely end up to big for fox work it would take years to breed the right sort that suits that sort work

[danw 1,748]

you just got to laugh why has Australia got fox cause we brits took it there to hunt in 1855 I think they might of sorted how to dig to them by now don't you

 

English red foxes were introduced to Australia by British expatriates seeking to introduce foxhunting to the colonies. The first introduction occurred in 1845 near Keilor, Victoria. The introduction of a further 2 male foxes was reported in the Sydney Echo in 1855. One male and two females were released in 1864 by the Melbourne Hunt Club. These early introductions did not become fully established. Australia's modern fox population stems from two subsequent shipments released in Victoria. The founder populations were a pair released 20 km from Ballarat in 1871 and several more on Point Cook. By 1880, the latter population spread up to Corio Bay and linked up with the Ballarat foxes. In less than a decade, the foxes had colonised 13,000sq km of Victoria, and by 1893, the first fox bounties were established. They established themselves in southern Queensland by 1911. Australian red foxes now occur principally throughout mainland Australia, save for northern Queensland and the Northern Territory.[98] The spread of red foxes across southern Australia coincided with declines in the distribution of several medium-sized ground-dwelling mammals, including brush-tailed bettongs, burrowing bettongs, rufous bettongs, Tasmanian bettongs, bilbys, numbats, bridled nailtail wallabys and quokkas.

[hedz31 1,308]

lol, I know I'm no terrier man.

So are you saying that Australian foxes are different somehow to English foxes?

Cos what I'm saying is you don't have to be a terrierman to hunt foxes, you need to be a dogman.

That's the problem, you feckers seem to think only a terrier can do the job. I know for a fact that this is bullshite. I have seen many dogs who can work fox and they're not pure terrier. In fact most blokes I know add terrier blood just to get their size down.

 

Whatever, each to their own. The challenge stands, take a visit to Australia and hook up with some foxers and see what they're using.

are you crazy or just plain daft of course many dogs can work fox,but only a terrier can go to ground and work them and i mean work them not bloody kill them everytime it goes to ground, were talking terriers and earthwork here not what can catch and despatch a fox on top its a different kettle of fish when a fox is bottled up in a tight hole with only its teeth to go at not like when on top when a dog can use its size and power to over run one and shake it and grab it where it wants

[hedz31 1,308]

lol, I know I'm no terrier man.

So are you saying that Australian foxes are different somehow to English foxes?

Cos what I'm saying is you don't have to be a terrierman to hunt foxes, you need to be a dogman.

That's the problem, you feckers seem to think only a terrier can do the job. I know for a fact that this is bullshite. I have seen many dogs who can work fox and they're not pure terrier. In fact most blokes I know add terrier blood just to get their size down.

 

Whatever, each to their own. The challenge stands, take a visit to Australia and hook up with some foxers and see what they're using.

are you crazy or just plain daft of course many dogs can work fox,but only a terrier can go to ground and work them and i mean work them not bloody kill them everytime it goes to ground, were talking terriers and earthwork here not what can catch and despatch a fox on top its a different kettle of fish when a fox is bottled up in a tight hole with only its teeth to go at not like when on top when a dog can use its size and power to over run one and shake it and grab it where it wants

 

 

Yes, I'm talking about dogs going to earth to flush a fox out, or if it's a stubborn fox to fight it out.

I am aware of earthing, it's not just the english who do this you know. In fact with the australian's lax attitude to hunting vermin I bet we do more earthing than the english do.

 

Of course there's lurcherss too that will run a fox down in the open.

 

I used to have a small australian cattle dog bitch who would run down any hole she came across. In Australia we have wombats too which dig big burrows, she was wombat proof but she hated foxes.

She was an ''earth dog'' because she would squeeze into a hole with one thing on her mind.

pal i have family in oz ive been there a few times i know its a big place and perth is only a small place in comparison but ive seen how lads do it over there and was not impressed and the lax laws over mean jackshit if you think your doing more digging over there if the terriers are that good over there why are aussie terrier boys crying out for british bred terriers ?????? why do most countrys cry out for them and import them ill tell you why because like it or not we have the best sporting terriers in the world theres not many working terrier breeds in this world that dont have british terrier blood in them somewhere or originate from british stock and you might have a cattle dog that went to ground i have hounds that try it regular but they cant get and the earths and dens over here are very different from over in oz that ive seen for myself

[Cleanspade 3,322]

no there is nowt wrong with mixing and matching different breeds to produce what you want. you will get the odd outstanding worker. it has been done for centuries.

 

but if you want to consistantly breed quality you have to linebreed best to best for many generations. we are still breeding some of the best sporting dogs in the world on this small island. for the control of ground vermin.

 

if i wanted a pig dog i would import one from australia/new zealand. from someone working a linebred strain that had been bred for the job for generations.

 

i wouldnt go on to one of there sites telling them where they was going wrong its like re'inventing the wheel. imagine the shit i would get. yours in sport.cleanspade

[.terrier man. 193]

read that piss poor topic that ozzy stated biggest bag of wank iv ever read, all im saying on it, done with that bolaks.