some of my dogs

[dogman 5]

NICE PICS you HAVE MATE CRACKING HEAD ON

THE CHOC DOG

[Shamo 319]

To be 100% honest, if the Dog is from linebred stuff and fairly tightly bred and from proven lines (as the pickaxe stuff seems to be) he will throw what he will throw. Nothing to do with how he himself works, it is 100% to do with Genetics. That is a whole other subject though.

Out six Days a Week 'WW', you have a few more Terriers you don't want to show? I bet, if you only have five, there are times you are crying out for a spare Dog........ That Choc Dog is a strong type, but I prefer those two black Lakelands. I bet the Choc Dog doesn't go Cubbing........ :whistle:

[beagles 0]

now theres some gd lookin terriers i like the 2 black ones and that pic of the fox is a gd pic keep them coming mate

[Shamo 319]

OK if you do truly believe that, why did you breed yours when they have done very, very little work?

[Shamo 319]

You do not need to say TUFFTY I know who you are and what Dogs you had and who you got them from. If breeding good Dogs was as easy as putting two good Dogs together, after all these Years you would think someone has the secrets. Breeding and how to get what you want can be a whole Books worth of discussion and argueing. He could be fabulous but produce Lemons and a real tightly bred old Ladys Pet could produce World Beaters. Read what I wrote TUFFTY about the Linebred, tightly bred and proven Lines stuff. There is a big difference between a fabulous loosely bred Dog and a tightly linebred dog from proven lines, when it comes to breeding Dogs.

I do not want to get into it TUFFTY and there will be so many different comments the conversation will go nowhere. Just that if you truly believe something stick to it, don't just say it because it is what others would say, or you think you should say it.

[simmo 0]

Top photos mate. Like the russel.

[Shamo 319]

You get far higher percentages of good Dogs from Linebred and tightly bred proven lines than you do from an individual fabulous worker. That is where the big gamble is when breeding. It doesn't matter how good a Dog works TUFFTY. It matters how the WHOLE Family works and it has been proven time and time again that good workers have been bred from the type I am talking about without one or both the Parents having done anything. All four Grand Parents have and the Cousins, Aunties, Uncles, Nephews, Brothers, Sisters etc, etc have too. That is the difference TUFFTY and that is my point. The Dogs in a mating have to be Genetically able to produce, not necessarily good workers themselves. Very contravercial I know, but true WHEN IT COMES TO BREEDING.

We all have different ideas TUFFTY and can see what you are trying to say. How old was Smithy when he started his Stud career and Spartacus and Nuttalls Poker. I bet they hadn't done several Seasons to see if they were good Dogs themselves. How many Foxes or whatever does it have to do before it has done enough?........100, 200 a 1,000?

[Shamo 319]

Here's another question for you TUFFTY, or maybe just something to think about. You decide both Parents are good enough for you to breed from. You breed from them a couple times and get a couple nice Litters. Then you take the Parents out this one Day and they both Jib. You go out again and they do it again. Do you then kill the whole of the two Litters and give everyone who bought a Pup their money back? Breeding is one big gamble and the way you think would only suit Parents which have totally retired. Blood is where it is at TUFFTY, WHEN IT COMES TO BREEDING and just having a good worker will not give you high percentage of good workers. I am not saying breed from Dogs that have done nothing, I am saying you can breed from them if they are linebred, tightly bred and from a proven Family.

Truthfully mate this will go nowhere because we all have our views. Lets just agree that having a high percentage of successes is the aim of the game.

 

Seasons Greetings.......nah bollox... HAPPY CHRISTMAS!!

[rip 0]

nice looking dogs,all of them, the choc dog looks handy

[Guest Eamon.Mc]

Great lookin pack you got there.

[Guest nitevision]

some quality there,somthing these sites lack these days

[whitewarrior 0]

some quality there,somthing these sites lack these days

THANKS I WILL KEEP THE PICS COMING

[milo 74]

some cracking looking earth dogs,love too see them going a credit to their breeder

[J Darcy 5,871]

very nice looking dogs. that fox looks like its coming out of plastic?....is it an artificial made from the plastic or a land drain,. good hunting JD

[Guest rattdog]

tight pack of dogs, I like the black ones...