joedog 8 Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 The lads are right,when judging you can only go by the dog who looks the best,but it does upset a lot of people when they could have the ugliest dog ,and know that it is a great worker ,NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
heart of wales 19 Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 You were right to Judge in that manner,I also like to see a bit of keeness in a dog also make the owners trot a bit with dog so You can see him move,You might have known the one dog but You wouldnt have known the others,you can only judge on looks,and look past all the bullshit some people spout. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) You were right to Judge in that manner,I also like to see a bit of keeness in a dog also make the owners trot a bit with dog so You can see him move,You might have known the one dog but You wouldnt have known the others,you can only judge on looks,and look past all the bullshit some people spout. Hear Hear! Well said heart of wales. Edited September 27, 2010 by kenny14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher330 2,297 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 most shows are run by WORKING lurcher and terrier clubs and they usualy run a family pet class so if the dog does'nt work that should be it's class because a lot of working dogs will have the odd scar and turned up toe and will not be picked because of that where the family pet will have perfect feet and coat but give it a season in the field and see how it does in shows then in my opinion every class at a lurcher show should be for working dogs except the puppy class Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mars 42 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 (edited) Edited October 4, 2010 by Mars Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buster 6 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 most shows are run by WORKING lurcher and terrier clubs and they usualy run a family pet class so if the dog does'nt work that should be it's class because a lot of working dogs will have the odd scar and turned up toe and will not be picked because of that where the family pet will have perfect feet and coat but give it a season in the field and see how it does in shows then in my opinion every class at a lurcher show should be for working dogs except the puppy class my dogs work rabbit only,on good ground all winter.you wouldnt be able to tell in a show ring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
heart of wales 19 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Interesting post no slagging off Yet brilliant could read and enjoy paticipating I would never mark a dog down for scars or work related injuries,come with the job,cant understand how the KC can do it to dogs such as Deerhounds,makes a mockery of the word Hound class. With regards to scarring on Lurchers In my experience I found it can sometimes depend on the dog or bitch themselves, I had a Bedlington x whippet who was a tool top dog,he regularly got cut or injured,eventually I kept him for the night,far less injuries,You wouldnt have been able to look at him and not find a scar,Stevie Wonder could have found one.On the other hand I had a Saluki collie Grey who also was a very usefull bitch never even knocked a toe up,I would have took anyone out in The field with her and she would always shine. Whenever Judging I always look past scars and look for whatever has been said in previous posts,and at the end of the Day The Judge is Human all are entitled to make mistakes so long as they are honest mistakes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inan 841 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 you should always pick what you think is best lurcher on the day for looks condition conformation and presence and should be looking at a blank canvass anything you know about the lurcher work or otherwise should never come in to your thoughts when picking your winner on the day . Wise words, spoken by a man who happens to be an excellent judge himself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bunnys 1,228 Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 aworking dog man with experience knows whats needed in a working type lurcher and i can say this for a dog to work under harsh conditions week in week out through the winter mths this sort of animal just wouldint get a second look in the climate of todays dog shows and game fairs the majority of lurchers parading round the show scene excluding the special classes are sight hound saturated to the degree its aquestion if they come under the title lurchers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny 29 Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 most show organisers will tell you the majority of revenue taken at lurcher and terrier shows is from people who do not hunt their dogs. Alot of hunting men i know dont go to shows more than half. They say they dont go because the dogs that they race and show against are not hunted i dont envy anyone who has the courage to judge a show. I go for the burgers and to have a laugh with my friends Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,876 Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 At a recent show, a woman entered her 9 month old blue merle collie cross into the "Working Lurcher" class !!! The judge asked what it had done; the owner said it had chased a rabbit !!! Of about 20 odd Lurchers, I doubt if more than two had done any graft !! And this was a qualifier for such shows as EDRD, Cock o' The North, etc !! Judges have a very hard job to do !!!! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freespirit 11 Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Lets not kid ourselves, The title working lurcher should have been dropped from shows many years ago as a high pecentage of dogs winning best in shows are no more than carpet dogs, the owners dare not let them of the lead for fear of injury, but may I add that there is still the rare occasion when a true worker will take the glory.The job of the Judge is a thankless job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 At a recent show, a woman entered her 9 month old blue merle collie cross into the "Working Lurcher" class !!! The judge asked what it had done; the owner said it had chased a rabbit !!! Of about 20 odd Lurchers, I doubt if more than two had done any graft !! And this was a qualifier for such shows as EDRD, Cock o' The North, etc !! Judges have a very hard job to do !!!! Cheers. You're right, judges do have a very hard job to do. But regarding entering dogs under 12 months in the working lurcher class I've entered mine(and won several times) this year as she's been catching daytime rabbits regularly from 7 months, and took to the lamp before she was 12 months, which in my opinion entitles her to be classed as 'working'. I know this is an exception, and over the many years I've worked lurchers I've never had one doing so well at such a young age, but it is possible to be both under twelve months and a worker. ATB Kenny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jay r 5 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 ive judged lurchers and terriers for over 2o yrs and ive said before that a show is a show nothing else ,its not about work cuz you cant tell if the dog you are judging is a worker or not,its just about confirmation and if you think the dog in front or you is built to do the job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buster 6 Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 ive judged lurchers and terriers for over 2o yrs and ive said before that a show is a show nothing else ,its not about work cuz you cant tell if the dog you are judging is a worker or not,its just about confirmation and if you think the dog in front or you is built to do the job spot on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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