judging lurchers

[inan 841]

The lads are right,when judging you can only go by the dog who looks the best,but it does upset a lot of people when they could have the ugliest dog ,and know that it is a great worker ,NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER

Except when judging at a show .

[boyo 1,398]

inan is right you can only judge what is in front of you on the day the fact is it could be a top class worker in fact worldclass or the worst hunting dog to ever draw breath but the fact is you will never know by examining it in a showring. all you are doing is picking out what in your opinion is the best looking conditioned dog on the day and if you do that with a honest heart and opinion you have done a good job and all you can do .one point i would like to make is the showing side is gone a bit ott in my opinion at the midland in the championship i dont think there was a dog in there with a conventional collar and lead they all had purpose made show leads like the kennel club shows use that says it all really .

[shushycatcher 219]

My bitch has just had some stitches out on her chest and leg,she has s shaved coat where the cuts are,now my question is would that make her less likely to win in a show ring? Her conformation and muscle tone is still good but would she get marked down for the fact she has had these injuries.

[jay r 5]

My bitch has just had some stitches out on her chest and leg,she has s shaved coat where the cuts are,now my question is would that make her less likely to win in a show ring? Her conformation and muscle tone is still good but would she get marked down for the fact she has had these injuries.

 

if she has bold patchs where the stitches are then she mite get marked down but when coat comes back even if theres scars that should be ok ,its just the bold bits that dont look good

[boyo 1,398]

as Chalkwarren said a good judge dont take notice of scars either way just cos its marked up dont mean its any good as a worker same as it doesn effect dogs conformation orlooks to a experienced eye however has someone posted shaved bald patches while healing might with all other things being equel between two good dogs .

[black-spring 18]

I think this is a question the comes up in most dog shows where you have both show ponies and working dogs!

 

If the class is an open class such as over 23" smooth coat, then i would expect judge to go on what the dog looks and feels like on that day at that time.

He would need to asses the dogs "perceived" ability to do the job he was intended for based on conformation, alertness and the judges own experience (after all that is why he has been chosen as a judge).

 

I can seen no reason why any amount of "legitimate" scaring should be marked down, and if two dogs are back to back then questions like working ability should be taken into account.

 

If the class is a working class and stated as such then the working side should be taken into account, and if the judge has seen qualities in the dog he likes and believes him to be worth a toss as a working dog then this should count!

It would be short argument if a person is kicked out of the "working show" ring and when he asks why he is told the winner regularly goes and and catches XX a night!

 

personally i would not show a dog with stiches in! how can that be fair on the judge or dog?

personally i would not also show an overly scared dog, as fair or not the judge may not want to have his picture next to the phantom of the opera!

 

but as has been said by other on here is only a beauty contest,, and its only the judges opinion!

[inan 841]

My bitch has just had some stitches out on her chest and leg,she has s shaved coat where the cuts are,now my question is would that make her less likely to win in a show ring? Her conformation and muscle tone is still good but would she get marked down for the fact she has had these injuries.

 

You don't get 'marked down' at a lurcher show,..it is only a beauty contest admitedly,.but there is some leaway for a bit of wear and tear, etc,..and most active breeds will have a few chips off their paintwork (myself included )..and all things being equal,..scars are invisable to a genuine judge...

 

All the best,..CHALKWARREN..

 

The fella in your pic could judge a dog Chalky,as you well know.

You were not so bad yourself either.

[heart of wales 19]

Each to there own when judging ,but personally I would never mark down a working dog on scarring,and as long as the wounds were clean and healing properly again not a problem,anyone who has owned working dogs has had the odd injury or scar.I wouldnt advise taking a dog to a show that looked liked it just met Jack the ripper the night before that just asking for trouble somethings are best left in the kennel out of prying eyes until healed.

[inan 841]

Each to there own when judging ,but personally I would never mark down a working dog on scarring,and as long as the wounds were clean and healing properly again not a problem,anyone who has owned working dogs has had the odd injury or scar.I wouldnt advise taking a dog to a show that looked liked it just met Jack the ripper the night before that just asking for trouble somethings are best left in the kennel out of prying eyes until healed.

I would only mark a dog down if its injuries were likely to hinder its every day performance of its work, ie ,ruptured tendons ,etc.

Scars are not faults ,neither are they meritorious.