lurchers feet

[skycat 6,173]

You need to tell us what you are feeding the pup. If you feed complete food make sure it is a meat based puppy formula, but raw is better providing the pup gets chicken carcases, breast of lamb, chicken wings etc. Bone meal has been heat treated and heat destroys the calcium content to a certain extent.

 

And like the others say, far too much exercise at an age where the bones are still soft and growing. Plus, is he doing a lot of walking on the lead, and does he pull on the lead? A pup with soft bones/joints which continually pulls on the lead is planting its front feet hard on the ground and putting excess pressure on its wrist joints as it pulls forwards against the collar. Pups of that age should have minimal walking on the lead and should be taught not to pull. A few minutes galloping about in a park/field but not when the ground is rock hard. And don't encourage the pup to run more than it wants to do naturally: in other words, don't let it chase another older dog about for minutes on end.

[Wild Whippies 11]

My opinion (for what its worth) is the dog might have carpal subluxation.

I would walk the dog on different substrates i.e. pea gravel, grass, mossland, sand. I would avoid walking on flat surfaces e.g. road walking / pacing around concrete floored pens/ running round on laminate floors etc

The dog needs a complete food designed for large breeds. Don't go mad on the protein levels either.

You can try supplementing but these complete feeds are carefully designed to give a specific amount of nutrients designed for the growth spurts a larger pup can go through.

Limit evening exercise to 45mins - 1 hour. There's a lot to be said of free running pups on their own, under their own steam. That way you'll know when they're physically tired because unfortunately their brains have a different opinion!

 

I don't know for sure if it is carpal subluxation, it's just a suspician. Vet should be able to give you an answer though.

 

Can you let us know how you get on?

[Wild Whippies 11]

Apologies Skycat, was typing whilst you posted, but seems were both singing from the same hymm sheet

[blackknight 14]

Yes it helps. Can I ask what are you feeding and has bonemeal been provided?

Just a quick experiment. If you hold the pups paw and bending it at the wrist bring the paw towards the elbow, how far will it comfortably extend?

If your pik with the dogs legs straight is 6 o'clock and you bend the paw, on a clock will it look like 3 o'clock, 2 o'clock etc.

I'm not taking the piss by the way! Genuine reason for getting you to do this.

sorry it took so long to get back to you bean a hectic day. the picture was taken about two weeks ago, im feeding him doctor jones complete food, for working dogs also chicken now and then. i bent his leg like you said, i would say it was about one oclock.

[Wild Whippies 11]

Good range of movement then with no restriction which is good. I still suspect carpal subluxation.

I don't doubt the working dog feed is good quality but just while he's growing, I'd recommend you feed him a puppy food specifically for large breeds. It's just that these will give him the correct amounts of minerals like calcium and phosphorous. You can supplement but the problem is sometimes supplementing if not at the correct dose can cause negative feedback and actually inhibit the bodies uptake of minerals.

Don't take my word for it though, seek advice from the vet but I do suspect this is what's going on with your dog.

[6pack 60]

Your giving the dog too much exercise.

I don't know wheteher that is what is fecking up its legs but you are exercising it far too much.

Let it grow and be a pup.

 

2 hours at any rime in a dog as young as this is asking for trouble imo

 

FTB

 

Totally agree. 2 hours is way too much.

[blackknight 14]

Good range of movement then with no restriction which is good. I still suspect carpal subluxation.

I don't doubt the working dog feed is good quality but just while he's growing, I'd recommend you feed him a puppy food specifically for large breeds. It's just that these will give him the correct amounts of minerals like calcium and phosphorous. You can supplement but the problem is sometimes supplementing if not at the correct dose can cause negative feedback and actually inhibit the bodies uptake of minerals.

Don't take my word for it though, seek advice from the vet but I do suspect this is what's going on with your dog.

thanks wild whippet, you have bean very helpful, also thanks again to everyone else, will keep you posted how dodge gets on.

[bendrover 556]

Yes it helps. Can I ask what are you feeding and has bonemeal been provided?

Just a quick experiment. If you hold the pups paw and bending it at the wrist bring the paw towards the elbow, how far will it comfortably extend?

If your pik with the dogs legs straight is 6 o'clock and you bend the paw, on a clock will it look like 3 o'clock, 2 o'clock etc.

I'm not taking the piss by the way! Genuine reason for getting you to do this.

IF you are feeding the pup a complete meal ,then by NO means give a pup the suppliment bone meal.it can mess with their growth plates.IF you are making up the food then thats fine but stick to the recomended amounts

[matty73 4]

in a nut shell mate i would change its diet to raw meat and mixer biscuits limit its exercise and see if theres a change after few weeks if not take it vets

[Wild Whippies 11]

Yes it helps. Can I ask what are you feeding and has bonemeal been provided?

Just a quick experiment. If you hold the pups paw and bending it at the wrist bring the paw towards the elbow, how far will it comfortably extend?

If your pik with the dogs legs straight is 6 o'clock and you bend the paw, on a clock will it look like 3 o'clock, 2 o'clock etc.

I'm not taking the piss by the way! Genuine reason for getting you to do this.

IF you are feeding the pup a complete meal ,then by NO means give a pup the suppliment bone meal.it can mess with their growth plates.IF you are making up the food then thats fine but stick to the recomended amounts

 

I think I said something similar if you read the thread through. I asked if bonemeal was being given, I didn't recommend it.

[bendrover 556]

Yes it helps. Can I ask what are you feeding and has bonemeal been provided?

Just a quick experiment. If you hold the pups paw and bending it at the wrist bring the paw towards the elbow, how far will it comfortably extend?

If your pik with the dogs legs straight is 6 o'clock and you bend the paw, on a clock will it look like 3 o'clock, 2 o'clock etc.

I'm not taking the piss by the way! Genuine reason for getting you to do this.

IF you are feeding the pup a complete meal ,then by NO means give a pup the suppliment bone meal.it can mess with their growth plates.IF you are making up the food then thats fine but stick to the recomended amounts

 

I think I said something similar if you read the thread through. I asked if bonemeal was being given, I didn't recommend it.

was only being clear about the sound advice given by a few members,you were one of them

Edited September 24, 2010 by bendrover

[Tiff 36]

what cross is he?

[blackknight 14]

what cross is he?

bull saluki collie greyhound x bull greyhound

[tamc 11]

what cross is he?

here,s my advice GO straight to the vet my vet takes 18.50 complete check,he,ll know straight away what cause is,my own opinion for what its worth is it cold be rickets caused by lack of calcium,i bought a pup years ago at 10wks was very thin but bones looked ok paid 10 pounds for her[1985] 2 weeks later noticed one off her legs below wrist looked not right much like yours went to vet thinking have to put her to sleep vet took onelook gave me a bottle of calcium she turned out a good allrounder,won an odd rossete at shows and racing, the dog looks in great condition credit to ya.

Edited September 25, 2010 by tamc

[skycat 6,173]

I've recently been reccomended homeopathic Calc. Phos. for all pups under 12 months of age. Apparently it provides very useful support for growing bones: rubbish alternative stuff if you want to, but the person who reccomended it to me has a lot of experience in these things. Of course you still need an adequate diet.