When is a lurcher not a lurcher??

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Lurcher

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Lurcher

a short-coated brindle lurcher

[hide]Traits

Coat Any

Color Any

Litter size variable

Life span 12-15 years

 

[show]Classification and standards

Not recognized by any major kennel club

 

Notes Lurchers may be registered with the North American Lurcher and Longdog Association (NALLA)

Dog (Canis lupus familiaris)

 

The lurcher is a type of dog. The name lurcher is derived from the Romani language word lur, which means thief. Not a pure breed, it is a hardy, crossbred sighthound, generally a cross between a sighthound and any other breed, usually a pastoral dog or terrier. Collie crosses have always been very popular given the working instinct of the sheepdog when mated with a sighthound gives a dog of great intelligence plus speed - prerequisites in this type of canine

[Wxm 1,638]

good thread

 

i thought anything x'd running dog was a lurcher (greyhound, whippet etc)

[DottyDoo 500]

stops being a lucher when it cannae catch, just a mongrel in my eyes then

[Bosun11 537]

Just my opinion Simo but I'd see a reverse 3/4 as the last 'true' lurcher, i've seen a few and have found it hard to tell if their's sighthound in 'em. So anythin further is the purebred with a drop of sighthound.

 

To me, a lurcher is a specific bred animal, amalgamating a sight hound and 'any' none sight hound to create a useful hunting dog.

 

Far to many people get hung up on fractions.... If it looks and performes like a lurcher, then it is a fecking lurcher!!!

[Bosun11 537]

stops being a lucher when it cannae catch, just a mongrel in my eyes then

 

Simple and true Dotty, form should always follow function

[KittleRox 2,147]

Now we all know that there are and have been reverse 3/4 of some crosses but at what point does the % become too diluted for the dog to stop becoming a lurcher?

 

For instance if you had a reverse 3/4 collie greyhound and mated it to a pure collie you would have a dog with an 8th greyhound, would you class this as a lurcher? Personally i wouldn't........

wxm,s nicked your idea mate, he,s asked same question on general talk.

[mike1458 14]

A lurcher is a crossbreed of a dog that contains at least one sighthound in its ancestory. For it to be classed as a lurcher it must be sighthound x terrier OR herding dog. If it is a sighthound x anything else techically it is a mongrel

ATB Mike

 

 

I have never heard this before I thought a mongrel was a dog that had unknow parent or parents.

 

You are also right but I also think that a mongrel is just a cross breed, such a labradoodle is really a mongrel. Just my opinion and understanding of it.

 

ATB Mike

[lurcher lass 9]

interesting topic si

 

personally i would say a dog which has more then half sighthound blood - greyhound/whippet etc IS a lurcher any less then that then i would call it a cross

 

i.e a collie x greyhound i would call it a "collie cross" bull x greyhound is a bull cross etc etc

 

a pup that is out of sighthound x sired by sighthound x is what i would call a traditional lurcher, but however lurchers are bred for specific jobs whereas it used to be a general purpose of poaching various game, now there are lurchers who are bred to specialise in rabbiting and ferreting or preban there were lurchers bred for hare coursing, fox control and taking deer

 

a dog that is only 1/4 sighthound could be and ARE very handy dogs, but i'm not sure i'd call it a lurcher..

 

i think it also boils down to what you think a lurcher should look like and what type your used to, someone who owns saluki type will be used to their lurchers being very fast, good stamina and lightbuilt however someone who works bull crosses will be very happy with their dogs being a tad slower but proud of jaw strength, heavier built very powerful dogs. all are lurchers but very different from the last,

 

intersting points said by some

 

keep up the no bitching!!! nice to have a friendly topic for change xxx

Edited September 22, 2010 by lurcher lass

[matty73 4]

even 1% of either blood whichever way round the breeding it would not be pure blood technically even after several generation breeding pure you would still get the odd throwback from dormant genes but like has already been mentioned theres not really an answer more an opinion and for me personally i would say 7/8 and your getting same wastage as first cross nearly

[Simoman 110]

Just my opinion Simo but I'd see a reverse 3/4 as the last 'true' lurcher

 

That is my opinion on the subject too mate

[SEAN3513 7]

the definition of a lurcher is a Sighthound cross, often part Greyhound. Lurchers that are the result of a cross of two Sighthounds (i.e Greyhound and Deerhound) are called Longdogs.

 

so i would say anything less than 33% (1/3rd) sight hound it could no longer (technicaly) be called a lurcher.

 

just my opinion

 

great thread si

 

 

similar thoughts

[poacher3161 1,766]

I would have thought the true defination of a lurcher would have been a dog far removed from a typical sighthound breed after all it was primarily the dog of the gypsey and poacher and any dog resembling a greyhound would have arose suspicion.

[Wxm 1,638]

Now we all know that there are and have been reverse 3/4 of some crosses but at what point does the % become too diluted for the dog to stop becoming a lurcher?

 

For instance if you had a reverse 3/4 collie greyhound and mated it to a pure collie you would have a dog with an 8th greyhound, would you class this as a lurcher? Personally i wouldn't........

wxm,s nicked your idea mate, he,s asked same question on general talk.

 

 

no i aint nicked it ... i've asked.

how many crosses is to many crosses ...

 

if you had a lurcher with :-

 

greyhound, collie, whippet, saluki, beddie, deerhound, bull, poodle and what ever you throw in to lurchers

say 6 plus crosses is it still a lurcher.

 

simoman asked a different question .. i took it that he asked whats the least amount of sighthound you can have in a lurcher until its not a lurcher.

 

and im sorry if im wrong

[Simoman 110]

Now we all know that there are and have been reverse 3/4 of some crosses but at what point does the % become too diluted for the dog to stop becoming a lurcher?

 

For instance if you had a reverse 3/4 collie greyhound and mated it to a pure collie you would have a dog with an 8th greyhound, would you class this as a lurcher? Personally i wouldn't........

wxm,s nicked your idea mate, he,s asked same question on general talk.

 

 

no i aint nicked it ... i've asked.

how many crosses is to many crosses ...

 

if you had a lurcher with :-

 

greyhound, collie, whippet, saluki, beddie, deerhound, bull, poodle and what ever you throw in to lurchers

say 6 plus crosses is it still a lurcher.

 

simoman asked a different question .. i took it that he asked whats the least amount of sighthound you can have in a lurcher until its not a lurcher.

 

and im sorry if im wrong

 

 

No your right, mine is a totally different question

[Simoman 110]

I would have thought the true defination of a lurcher would have been a dog far removed from a typical sighthound breed after all it was primarily the dog of the gypsey and poacher and any dog resembling a greyhound would have arose suspicion.

 

 

Interesting, also the original lurchers would no doubt have been heavily infused with sheepdog blood and the focus would of been the humble bunny!! But lurcher hybrids have evolved and developed to specialise at various species