Electric collar?

[longdog98 7]

I've never used an electric collar before but am thinking about it now. I have a spaniel and lurcher who have taken to working together on deer. Once the spaniel picks up the deer scent she is away taking the lurcher with her I have 8 dogs in total, most of them given as problem dogs so i am used to taking things back to basics but this spaniel is seriously starting to disrupt my happy little pack.

 

Does the beep not make things difficult when it comes to removing the collar, as the dog is responding to the beep rather than your command. I have no experience with these collars but surely it is a short term training aid rather than a long term thing. Also, would it be a good idea to have a dummy collar on the dog for a few weeks before fitting the real thing so there is no association with the collar and the shock?

[CarraghsGem 92]

what brands are well known and safe and effective?

 

 

[Giro 2,648]

http://www.britishdog.net/gbu0-catshow/X_Hire.html

 

would mabie have a look here.. they also sell 2nd hand ones that are basically new they where just returned..

 

I bought a cheap ebay one and never used it broke the dog before it arrived sods law..

[danw 1,748]

http://pacdog.com/content.php?gp=bxt I got 1 of these about 2 years ago comes with every thing it beeps and comes with a dummy collar but it aint cheap especially as I only needed it for 1 day it cured a recall problem on a springer that I had spent 6 months trying to correct 2 small zaps a couple of beeps and haven't needed the collar again. they are worth every penny BUT they are no replacement for proper training they should not be used all the time and then only as a last resort.

 

Dont zap the dog till you have tried the collar first on yourself and always use it on the minimum it needs to be effective.

[Simoman 110]

what brands are well known and safe and effective?

 

 

Innotek without doubt When dog training on a professional basis I tried a few and they were quality, expensive but worth it. Although I very very rarely used one except in extreme circumstances, many folk buy one as a shortcut rather than put the effort in

[Simoman 110]

My dog is now coming up to a year old and i still cant get him to come when called. On a long lead or any other type of lead he is perfect, coming as soon as a call him. But as soon as i let him off the lead he starts to completely ignore me. Ive tried letting him run wild to tire himself out for 10 mins then trying but no matter what he wont come back. Ive tried treat and hiding etc but he still only comes when HE feels like it. Im realy starting to loose hope now and the last thing i want is him to turn into a pet that has to stay on the lead. Ive tried everything ive been advised except for the electric collar. I always said I would never use one but im now at the point where i think its the only option.

 

Ive been looking at some websites

 

http://www.siriusdog.com/ecollar-recall.htm

http://searchwarp.com/swa246083.htm

 

Just wondering if anyone else on here has used one to train recall and if they used it in the way shown on the websites, also is there a specific type to get or are they all the same?

 

As i said this realy is a last resort

 

Using a collar takes impecible timing and 90% of the time is used incorrectly and makes things worse.

 

Go back to basics and do ALL exercise on a lead, ONLY let the dog off in a small enclosed area. I CAN sort your recall but pm me if you want it sorted.

[CarraghsGem 92]

what brands are well known and safe and effective?

 

 

Innotek without doubt When dog training on a professional basis I tried a few and they were quality, expensive but worth it. Although I very very rarely used one except in extreme circumstances, many folk buy one as a shortcut rather than put the effort in

 

ive wanted to have one for a while, even though i dont need it at moment but id like to have it there just in case.

[Simoman 110]

what brands are well known and safe and effective?

 

 

Innotek without doubt When dog training on a professional basis I tried a few and they were quality, expensive but worth it. Although I very very rarely used one except in extreme circumstances, many folk buy one as a shortcut rather than put the effort in

 

ive wanted to have one for a while, even though i dont need it at moment but id like to have it there just in case.

 

I understand, i got mine back in 2000 and its been out of the box 3 times but its there if needed........

[F.R. 2]

I'd agree with Simoman, just had a pet dog here that was horrible for chasing deer, golf carts and cars in a residential area along a golf course and busy highway. The collars are a great tool that have no power themselves, it's all in how/when they're used. The dog was fixed with about 3 corrections by training him from the start again over the course of a month. Timing and finesse is everything.