Electric collar?

[dh90 6]

My dog is now coming up to a year old and i still cant get him to come when called. On a long lead or any other type of lead he is perfect, coming as soon as a call him. But as soon as i let him off the lead he starts to completely ignore me. Ive tried letting him run wild to tire himself out for 10 mins then trying but no matter what he wont come back. Ive tried treat and hiding etc but he still only comes when HE feels like it. Im realy starting to loose hope now and the last thing i want is him to turn into a pet that has to stay on the lead. Ive tried everything ive been advised except for the electric collar. I always said I would never use one but im now at the point where i think its the only option.

 

Ive been looking at some websites

 

http://www.siriusdog.com/ecollar-recall.htm

http://searchwarp.com/swa246083.htm

 

Just wondering if anyone else on here has used one to train recall and if they used it in the way shown on the websites, also is there a specific type to get or are they all the same?

 

As i said this realy is a last resort

[Guest Buttermilk]

I don't use electric collars...so can't advise. But just wondered whether you've tried liver cake....it's simple to make and really good for recall training.

I can give you the recipe if you like...

[dh90 6]

Havent tried liver cakes but ive tried plenty of other treats, his favourite being kabab meat (i no it sounds daft) but for a few weeks he was perfect with it but last few months he just wont come back for anything.

[nasher1 258]

If you really have tried everthing else then try the collar I had to use it on a bitch of mine all it took was three zaps and shes been perfect ever since, but it still has to be the last resort, it was the first time ive had to use one to control a dog but she has got a screw loose

[dh90 6]

If you really have tried everthing else then try the collar I had to use it on a bitch of mine all it took was three zaps and shes been perfect ever since, but it still has to be the last resort, it was the first time ive had to use one to control a dog but she has got a screw loose

 

It realy is the last option mate, and to be honest i dont like the idea of doing it or feeling like ive had to resort to it but ive run out of ideas and theres no other way of controling him off the lead. What make is yours and how much did it cost?

[Hannah4181 260]

I have never had the need for an electric collar, however feel they have a place as an absolute last resort that may just save a dogs life. I do know that there is companies that hire them out, instead of having to shell out for a new one. If you google "hiring shock collars" i'm sure you'll find one.

[TOPPER 1,809]

PAC hire them out look in the cmw or shooting times , i use the dogtra ones and find them a great help stock breaking the sicotic terrioest i keep used properly there great bits of kit

[Annmarie09 5]

Make sure you try it on yourself first (your hands will do!), just so you know how much the dog can feel. If it doesn't help your problem after a couple of goes don't keep trying! Good luck

[dh90 6]

Whats the difference between the expensive collars i.e. dogtra and the ones on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170542523635&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT for around £35

[gnipper 6,546]

Make sure you try it on yourself first (your hands will do!), just so you know how much the dog can feel. If it doesn't help your problem after a couple of goes don't keep trying! Good luck

 

Have you tried one personally? Its not an electric shock like touching a live wire its like the static off a tv or something.

[Ideation 8,216]

Out of interest at what age/point would you consider that the dog is beyond other methods of recall training?

[dh90 6]

He is a year old. Honestly cant stress how much ive tried the other methods.

[chappas 1]

If you are going to use one of these collars you have to get the right one.you need one with a beeper function so the dog associate s the beep with a shock or if he runs beep him if he takes no notice then you give him a shock starting on the lowest level if no reaction knock it up one notch until the dog responds so basically the dog will associate the beep with a shock so he will return as he does not want a shock I use a Canicom 500 for 2 years now although I do not use the shock side of it I use the beeper only and it was the best Money I spent but this is my opinion and every one will have there's good luck and if you do buy one stick with a good make not a cheap import

[Jordb543 9]

ive been having the same problem with my terrier mate (plummer x lakeland) got him 2months ago, he is 9months now and this week has finally been the week in which it has all kicked in lol,

 

at 1st he would run for the hills, chasing and following other dogs, people, birds anything, even if nothing was there he would bugger off,

 

the way i sorted it was to take him out with the other dogs on my bike, they automatically seem to go into a follower mode, he ignored pretty much everything showed some interest in other dogs but would stop for a second then try to catch up, did that every morning,

 

then i would take him out on his own, he would still bolt off but eventually he would follow me from far away, also when i took him out with my other dogs, the dalmation like to play fetch, and the new terrier payed no attention for weeks and suddenly pick it up and ran off with it, since then he is obsessed with fetch, and now mainly just wants to do that, he still shows interest in other dogs just curiosity and wanting to play now not follow, and he comes back every time i call him/walk away.

 

basically mate try and find something he likes and puts alot of focus on such as a toy etc and just be persistant it gets well frustrating and you will make a few enemies in the local park and and beach lol you may have to run and grab him a few times (does keep you fit) but the way i saw was if he isnt off the lead he cant be trained off the lead if you get my meaning lol, being with other dogs i think is a huge help especially if they live together as the pack mentality keeps them all together i find

 

as for the electric collar i havnt used one so cant advise either way on that

Edited September 21, 2010 by Jordb543

[Annmarie09 5]

Make sure you try it on yourself first (your hands will do!), just so you know how much the dog can feel. If it doesn't help your problem after a couple of goes don't keep trying! Good luck

 

Have you tried one personally? Its not an electric shock like touching a live wire its like the static off a tv or something.

 

Yes I have, in fact I own one but have never had to use it on a dog yet - I would only use one if it was a matter of life or death, like stock chasing, or recall if it's so bad your dog may run onto the road. I'm just saying that everyone who plans to use one should try it out on themselves first.

 

The beep ones are good as has been said, after you've used it once or twice the beep will be sufficient to remind the dog.

 

I think the main difference with cheap versus expensive, other than having more settings and extras like the beep is the distance they work at, and also possibly reliability.

Edited September 23, 2010 by Annmarie09