I'm totally incensed.

[Guest Buttermilk]

I added cold ethyl because i thought she seemed like a real classy bird.

 

Theres nothing disturbing about my post thats just the way ive been taught and how i think things should be done. I can see i might be wasting my time trying to explain on this site so i will just leave it at that. Hope you find good homes for your pups

 

 

I think you like her really....come on, admit it. :kiss:

I do understand what you're saying...you needn't explain anymore....I just don't agree with you.

And I don't have any pups....

[Cold Ethyl 63]

Is it just me or is does the general attitude on this forum seem to be slowly turning to it becoming unacceptable to cull failed dogs/excess pups. Im not aiming this at anyone on this particular thread but i keep reading people being slated for saying they would cull any of the previous mentioned dogs. I would rather cull a pup which was surplus to requirements than it go to someone i dont know, therefore dont know how it would be treated, kept, worked and so on. Its the same with failed adult lurchers should they not be culled? after all they were bred as a working dog not a pet. Thats why there is so much shit about imo because people are to happy to keep and breed from crap dogs. Maybe it's the same as it has always been its just the rise of the internet legend that makes things seem different.

 

 

Hmmmm. Sort of understand what you're saying...but totally disagree with you.

I have only ever bred 3 litters and each pup was spoken for before they were born. I made it my business to ensure I had good homes for at least 12/13 pups before I even contemplated lining my bitch. I would feel incredibly uncomfortable 'culling' strong, healthy pups just because I hadn't got off my arse and done the groundwork in ensuring the pups all had homes to go to BEFORE conception took place.

Similarly with failed workers....unless there's some hideous trait in the dog's character that makes her a danger, I see no reason why she shouldn't live out her life in a non working environment. All this shite about being 'born to work'...therefore anything else is not acceptable just doesn't wash. A good, active knowledgable home is enough for any dog. And it's certainly better than death.

But, perhaps the most disturbing element of your whole post is that I've just noticed on your profile, that your ONLY friend is ........ Cold Ethyl. :sick:

Just hold on there before you go further with this I WOULD NEVER CULL OR KILL ANY ANIMAL i volunteer for my dads rescue and deal with a private vet even my own dogs go to a private vets now as the pdsa made some very big mistakes with a very ill dog in the past and i dont trust them now.I have taken dogs that were to be dispatched even when i didnt have room or the time but made it work and can provide you with examples.I dont agree with dogs passing hands free either unless you know who your giving it to and it is a sad situation with dogs at the moment for a lot of animals and we are seeing a load of patterdales and terriers especially at the minute.I do not agree with pts unless the animal is beyond help medically or is dangerous if the dogs dangerous to people and kids then i have no problem with pts at a vets

[Blackie Joe 6]

Is it just me or is does the general attitude on this forum seem to be slowly turning to it becoming unacceptable to cull failed dogs/excess pups. Im not aiming this at anyone on this particular thread but i keep reading people being slated for saying they would cull any of the previous mentioned dogs. I would rather cull a pup which was surplus to requirements than it go to someone i dont know, therefore dont know how it would be treated, kept, worked and so on. Its the same with failed adult lurchers should they not be culled? after all they were bred as a working dog not a pet. Thats why there is so much shit about imo because people are to happy to keep and breed from crap dogs. Maybe it's the same as it has always been its just the rise of the internet legend that makes things seem different.

 

 

Hmmmm. Sort of understand what you're saying...but totally disagree with you.

I have only ever bred 3 litters and each pup was spoken for before they were born. I made it my business to ensure I had good homes for at least 12/13 pups before I even contemplated lining my bitch. I would feel incredibly uncomfortable 'culling' strong, healthy pups just because I hadn't got off my arse and done the groundwork in ensuring the pups all had homes to go to BEFORE conception took place.

Similarly with failed workers....unless there's some hideous trait in the dog's character that makes her a danger, I see no reason why she shouldn't live out her life in a non working environment. All this shite about being 'born to work'...therefore anything else is not acceptable just doesn't wash. A good, active knowledgable home is enough for any dog. And it's certainly better than death.

But, perhaps the most disturbing element of your whole post is that I've just noticed on your profile, that your ONLY friend is ........ Cold Ethyl. :sick:

Just hold on there before you go further with this I WOULD NEVER CULL OR KILL ANY ANIMAL i volunteer for my dads rescue and deal with a private vet even my own dogs go to a private vets now as the pdsa made some very big mistakes with a very ill dog in the past and i dont trust them now.I have taken dogs that were to be dispatched even when i didnt have room or the time but made it work and can provide you with examples.I dont agree with dogs passing hands free either unless you know who your giving it to and it is a sad situation with dogs at the moment for a lot of animals and we are seeing a load of patterdales and terriers especially at the minute.I do not agree with pts unless the animal is beyond help medically or is dangerous if the dogs dangerous to people and kids then i have no problem with pts at a vets

 

 

oh fcuk she's here now. Nutter

[CarraghsGem 92]

Is it just me or is does the general attitude on this forum seem to be slowly turning to it becoming unacceptable to cull failed dogs/excess pups. Im not aiming this at anyone on this particular thread but i keep reading people being slated for saying they would cull any of the previous mentioned dogs. I would rather cull a pup which was surplus to requirements than it go to someone i dont know, therefore dont know how it would be treated, kept, worked and so on. Its the same with failed adult lurchers should they not be culled? after all they were bred as a working dog not a pet. Thats why there is so much shit about imo because people are to happy to keep and breed from crap dogs. Maybe it's the same as it has always been its just the rise of the internet legend that makes things seem different.

 

 

Hmmmm. Sort of understand what you're saying...but totally disagree with you.

I have only ever bred 3 litters and each pup was spoken for before they were born. I made it my business to ensure I had good homes for at least 12/13 pups before I even contemplated lining my bitch. I would feel incredibly uncomfortable 'culling' strong, healthy pups just because I hadn't got off my arse and done the groundwork in ensuring the pups all had homes to go to BEFORE conception took place.

Similarly with failed workers....unless there's some hideous trait in the dog's character that makes her a danger, I see no reason why she shouldn't live out her life in a non working environment. All this shite about being 'born to work'...therefore anything else is not acceptable just doesn't wash. A good, active knowledgable home is enough for any dog. And it's certainly better than death.

But, perhaps the most disturbing element of your whole post is that I've just noticed on your profile, that your ONLY friend is ........ Cold Ethyl. :sick:

Just hold on there before you go further with this I WOULD NEVER CULL OR KILL ANY ANIMAL i volunteer for my dads rescue and deal with a private vet even my own dogs go to a private vets now as the pdsa made some very big mistakes with a very ill dog in the past and i dont trust them now.I have taken dogs that were to be dispatched even when i didnt have room or the time but made it work and can provide you with examples.I dont agree with dogs passing hands free either unless you know who your giving it to and it is a sad situation with dogs at the moment for a lot of animals and we are seeing a load of patterdales and terriers especially at the minute.I do not agree with pts unless the animal is beyond help medically or is dangerous if the dogs dangerous to people and kids then i have no problem with pts at a vets

 

 

this site is turning more + more into a fluffy pet owners website every day.

[BIG_SLIM 17]

work em hard and not cull em hard. Thats why theres so much shit about

 

 

Not at all Biggy....you're missing the point.

Not all of us think it's a good idea to let our dogs mate indescriminately. You can be responsible and Not let your dogs breed.

I'm not advocating heaps of puppies...on the contrary, in my opinion, the only dogs that should be bred from, are dogs of good health, working ability and sound temperament.

In summary....if people didn't breed indescriminately....ie: took responsibility for their dogs we'd be in a situation where we have a superb gene pool of working dogs and the need to "cull 'em hard" is redundant.

 

Sadly we dont live in that ideal world and even if we did you would still have dogs which were inferior.

[Blackie Joe 6]

Is it just me or is does the general attitude on this forum seem to be slowly turning to it becoming unacceptable to cull failed dogs/excess pups. Im not aiming this at anyone on this particular thread but i keep reading people being slated for saying they would cull any of the previous mentioned dogs. I would rather cull a pup which was surplus to requirements than it go to someone i dont know, therefore dont know how it would be treated, kept, worked and so on. Its the same with failed adult lurchers should they not be culled? after all they were bred as a working dog not a pet. Thats why there is so much shit about imo because people are to happy to keep and breed from crap dogs. Maybe it's the same as it has always been its just the rise of the internet legend that makes things seem different.

 

 

Hmmmm. Sort of understand what you're saying...but totally disagree with you.

I have only ever bred 3 litters and each pup was spoken for before they were born. I made it my business to ensure I had good homes for at least 12/13 pups before I even contemplated lining my bitch. I would feel incredibly uncomfortable 'culling' strong, healthy pups just because I hadn't got off my arse and done the groundwork in ensuring the pups all had homes to go to BEFORE conception took place.

Similarly with failed workers....unless there's some hideous trait in the dog's character that makes her a danger, I see no reason why she shouldn't live out her life in a non working environment. All this shite about being 'born to work'...therefore anything else is not acceptable just doesn't wash. A good, active knowledgable home is enough for any dog. And it's certainly better than death.

But, perhaps the most disturbing element of your whole post is that I've just noticed on your profile, that your ONLY friend is ........ Cold Ethyl. :sick:

Just hold on there before you go further with this I WOULD NEVER CULL OR KILL ANY ANIMAL i volunteer for my dads rescue and deal with a private vet even my own dogs go to a private vets now as the pdsa made some very big mistakes with a very ill dog in the past and i dont trust them now.I have taken dogs that were to be dispatched even when i didnt have room or the time but made it work and can provide you with examples.I dont agree with dogs passing hands free either unless you know who your giving it to and it is a sad situation with dogs at the moment for a lot of animals and we are seeing a load of patterdales and terriers especially at the minute.I do not agree with pts unless the animal is beyond help medically or is dangerous if the dogs dangerous to people and kids then i have no problem with pts at a vets

 

 

this site is turning more + more into a fluffy pet owners website every day.

 

 

Whoa! There speaks the big white hunter of the wild west!

[CarraghsGem 92]

Is it just me or is does the general attitude on this forum seem to be slowly turning to it becoming unacceptable to cull failed dogs/excess pups. Im not aiming this at anyone on this particular thread but i keep reading people being slated for saying they would cull any of the previous mentioned dogs. I would rather cull a pup which was surplus to requirements than it go to someone i dont know, therefore dont know how it would be treated, kept, worked and so on. Its the same with failed adult lurchers should they not be culled? after all they were bred as a working dog not a pet. Thats why there is so much shit about imo because people are to happy to keep and breed from crap dogs. Maybe it's the same as it has always been its just the rise of the internet legend that makes things seem different.

 

 

Hmmmm. Sort of understand what you're saying...but totally disagree with you.

I have only ever bred 3 litters and each pup was spoken for before they were born. I made it my business to ensure I had good homes for at least 12/13 pups before I even contemplated lining my bitch. I would feel incredibly uncomfortable 'culling' strong, healthy pups just because I hadn't got off my arse and done the groundwork in ensuring the pups all had homes to go to BEFORE conception took place.

Similarly with failed workers....unless there's some hideous trait in the dog's character that makes her a danger, I see no reason why she shouldn't live out her life in a non working environment. All this shite about being 'born to work'...therefore anything else is not acceptable just doesn't wash. A good, active knowledgable home is enough for any dog. And it's certainly better than death.

But, perhaps the most disturbing element of your whole post is that I've just noticed on your profile, that your ONLY friend is ........ Cold Ethyl. :sick:

Just hold on there before you go further with this I WOULD NEVER CULL OR KILL ANY ANIMAL i volunteer for my dads rescue and deal with a private vet even my own dogs go to a private vets now as the pdsa made some very big mistakes with a very ill dog in the past and i dont trust them now.I have taken dogs that were to be dispatched even when i didnt have room or the time but made it work and can provide you with examples.I dont agree with dogs passing hands free either unless you know who your giving it to and it is a sad situation with dogs at the moment for a lot of animals and we are seeing a load of patterdales and terriers especially at the minute.I do not agree with pts unless the animal is beyond help medically or is dangerous if the dogs dangerous to people and kids then i have no problem with pts at a vets

 

 

this site is turning more + more into a fluffy pet owners website every day.

 

 

Whoa! There speaks the big white hunter of the wild west!

 

im sorry pumpkin but who the f**k are you?

another banned member coming back on under a new user name??

or another anti?

[Hunter.Harley. 5]

I agree with alot of you on here,Dont give them the pups if you dont feel they will look after them right !

People Take advantage of working dogs for just a normal dog !

When actully there worth alot more

[Blackie Joe 6]

Is it just me or is does the general attitude on this forum seem to be slowly turning to it becoming unacceptable to cull failed dogs/excess pups. Im not aiming this at anyone on this particular thread but i keep reading people being slated for saying they would cull any of the previous mentioned dogs. I would rather cull a pup which was surplus to requirements than it go to someone i dont know, therefore dont know how it would be treated, kept, worked and so on. Its the same with failed adult lurchers should they not be culled? after all they were bred as a working dog not a pet. Thats why there is so much shit about imo because people are to happy to keep and breed from crap dogs. Maybe it's the same as it has always been its just the rise of the internet legend that makes things seem different.

 

 

Hmmmm. Sort of understand what you're saying...but totally disagree with you.

I have only ever bred 3 litters and each pup was spoken for before they were born. I made it my business to ensure I had good homes for at least 12/13 pups before I even contemplated lining my bitch. I would feel incredibly uncomfortable 'culling' strong, healthy pups just because I hadn't got off my arse and done the groundwork in ensuring the pups all had homes to go to BEFORE conception took place.

Similarly with failed workers....unless there's some hideous trait in the dog's character that makes her a danger, I see no reason why she shouldn't live out her life in a non working environment. All this shite about being 'born to work'...therefore anything else is not acceptable just doesn't wash. A good, active knowledgable home is enough for any dog. And it's certainly better than death.

But, perhaps the most disturbing element of your whole post is that I've just noticed on your profile, that your ONLY friend is ........ Cold Ethyl. :sick:

Just hold on there before you go further with this I WOULD NEVER CULL OR KILL ANY ANIMAL i volunteer for my dads rescue and deal with a private vet even my own dogs go to a private vets now as the pdsa made some very big mistakes with a very ill dog in the past and i dont trust them now.I have taken dogs that were to be dispatched even when i didnt have room or the time but made it work and can provide you with examples.I dont agree with dogs passing hands free either unless you know who your giving it to and it is a sad situation with dogs at the moment for a lot of animals and we are seeing a load of patterdales and terriers especially at the minute.I do not agree with pts unless the animal is beyond help medically or is dangerous if the dogs dangerous to people and kids then i have no problem with pts at a vets

 

 

this site is turning more + more into a fluffy pet owners website every day.

 

 

Whoa! There speaks the big white hunter of the wild west!

 

im sorry pumpkin but who the f**k are you?

another banned member coming back on under a new user name??

or another anti?

 

I'm someone who saw you make a fcuken arse of yourself at the game show.

Grow up your a little girl who knows fcuk all.

Big white hunter!Your a laughing stock.

[tracyb -Doglost 2]

I've not been posting on site for a while.

 

But as well as Doglost- I run my own rescue. 12 months ago we may have seen a couple of lurchers or working dogs a month- coming through the pound.

 

Now its every week, saluki x, collie/grey x, greys - now all these dogs belong to some one- they dont just 'appear' from nowhere. I see all the STOLEN/MISSING threads. Terriers, Patterdales

 

Yet even when these dogs are plastered all over Doglost & we are telling you they have been found- no one claims them - WHY???

 

Sorry but I do think dogs are been overbred & if you are going to work your dog & then had enough of it - then do the right thing by it. Its served you by giving you your fun.

 

We have just caught after 6 weeks f trying a saluki x male thats injured. Someone WATCHED a bloke throw a greyhound into a canal- its made it to a patch of reeds but we cannot get to it as canal drained. Thats blatant cruelty.

 

I have some good friends that work their dogs- but I also know others that I wouldnt give a goldfish to - that wouldnt think twice bout dumping dog & then just go get another 'Free to Good Home'

 

Think before you breed- if you havent got homes lined up then dont bother. It's the rescues and others that are picking up the pieces.

[CarraghsGem 92]

Is it just me or is does the general attitude on this forum seem to be slowly turning to it becoming unacceptable to cull failed dogs/excess pups. Im not aiming this at anyone on this particular thread but i keep reading people being slated for saying they would cull any of the previous mentioned dogs. I would rather cull a pup which was surplus to requirements than it go to someone i dont know, therefore dont know how it would be treated, kept, worked and so on. Its the same with failed adult lurchers should they not be culled? after all they were bred as a working dog not a pet. Thats why there is so much shit about imo because people are to happy to keep and breed from crap dogs. Maybe it's the same as it has always been its just the rise of the internet legend that makes things seem different.

 

 

Hmmmm. Sort of understand what you're saying...but totally disagree with you.

I have only ever bred 3 litters and each pup was spoken for before they were born. I made it my business to ensure I had good homes for at least 12/13 pups before I even contemplated lining my bitch. I would feel incredibly uncomfortable 'culling' strong, healthy pups just because I hadn't got off my arse and done the groundwork in ensuring the pups all had homes to go to BEFORE conception took place.

Similarly with failed workers....unless there's some hideous trait in the dog's character that makes her a danger, I see no reason why she shouldn't live out her life in a non working environment. All this shite about being 'born to work'...therefore anything else is not acceptable just doesn't wash. A good, active knowledgable home is enough for any dog. And it's certainly better than death.

But, perhaps the most disturbing element of your whole post is that I've just noticed on your profile, that your ONLY friend is ........ Cold Ethyl. :sick:

Just hold on there before you go further with this I WOULD NEVER CULL OR KILL ANY ANIMAL i volunteer for my dads rescue and deal with a private vet even my own dogs go to a private vets now as the pdsa made some very big mistakes with a very ill dog in the past and i dont trust them now.I have taken dogs that were to be dispatched even when i didnt have room or the time but made it work and can provide you with examples.I dont agree with dogs passing hands free either unless you know who your giving it to and it is a sad situation with dogs at the moment for a lot of animals and we are seeing a load of patterdales and terriers especially at the minute.I do not agree with pts unless the animal is beyond help medically or is dangerous if the dogs dangerous to people and kids then i have no problem with pts at a vets

 

 

this site is turning more + more into a fluffy pet owners website every day.

 

 

Whoa! There speaks the big white hunter of the wild west!

 

im sorry pumpkin but who the f**k are you?

another banned member coming back on under a new user name??

or another anti?

 

I'm someone who saw you make a fcuken arse of yourself at the game show.

Grow up your a little girl who knows fcuk all.

Big white hunter!Your a laughing stock.

 

ok pumpkin.... whatever..... im really not that interested.

[6pack 60]

I've not been posting on site for a while.

 

But as well as Doglost- I run my own rescue. 12 months ago we may have seen a couple of lurchers or working dogs a month- coming through the pound.

 

Now its every week, saluki x, collie/grey x, greys - now all these dogs belong to some one- they dont just 'appear' from nowhere. I see all the STOLEN/MISSING threads. Terriers, Patterdales

 

Yet even when these dogs are plastered all over Doglost & we are telling you they have been found- no one claims them - WHY???

 

Sorry but I do think dogs are been overbred & if you are going to work your dog & then had enough of it - then do the right thing by it. Its served you by giving you your fun.

 

We have just caught after 6 weeks f trying a saluki x male thats injured. Someone WATCHED a bloke throw a greyhound into a canal- its made it to a patch of reeds but we cannot get to it as canal drained. Thats blatant cruelty.

 

I have some good friends that work their dogs- but I also know others that I wouldnt give a goldfish to - that wouldnt think twice bout dumping dog & then just go get another 'Free to Good Home'

 

Think before you breed- if you havent got homes lined up then dont bother. It's the rescues and others that are picking up the pieces.

 

Added to picking up the pieces is the mentality that that is what rescues are for, as if owners have a right to count on rescues to clear up for them.

I wish some owners would show the same level of loyalty the dogs do.

And being disgusted and horrified at images such as these....

Jack does not make a fluffy pet owners or an anti, nor a PETA supporter, but just how much is a dogs life worth to some?

 

Why are many rescues against new owners working their dogs? Because they see all too often the aftermath when a dog is no longer of use. They watch the coming and going of new fads, hence so many bullxs in rescue, and see DAILY how disposable mans best friend is.

 

A little thought from a minority would make a huge difference.

[Guest Buttermilk]

work em hard and not cull em hard. Thats why theres so much shit about

 

 

Not at all Biggy....you're missing the point.

Not all of us think it's a good idea to let our dogs mate indescriminately. You can be responsible and Not let your dogs breed.

I'm not advocating heaps of puppies...on the contrary, in my opinion, the only dogs that should be bred from, are dogs of good health, working ability and sound temperament.

In summary....if people didn't breed indescriminately....ie: took responsibility for their dogs we'd be in a situation where we have a superb gene pool of working dogs and the need to "cull 'em hard" is redundant.

 

Sadly we dont live in that ideal world and even if we did you would still have dogs which were inferior.

 

 

You're right...sadly.

Edited September 23, 2010 by Buttermilk

[Fabapocalypse 35]

I've not been posting on site for a while.

 

But as well as Doglost- I run my own rescue. 12 months ago we may have seen a couple of lurchers or working dogs a month- coming through the pound.

 

Now its every week, saluki x, collie/grey x, greys - now all these dogs belong to some one- they dont just 'appear' from nowhere. I see all the STOLEN/MISSING threads. Terriers, Patterdales

 

Yet even when these dogs are plastered all over Doglost & we are telling you they have been found- no one claims them - WHY???

 

Sorry but I do think dogs are been overbred & if you are going to work your dog & then had enough of it - then do the right thing by it. Its served you by giving you your fun.

 

We have just caught after 6 weeks f trying a saluki x male thats injured. Someone WATCHED a bloke throw a greyhound into a canal- its made it to a patch of reeds but we cannot get to it as canal drained. Thats blatant cruelty.

 

I have some good friends that work their dogs- but I also know others that I wouldnt give a goldfish to - that wouldnt think twice bout dumping dog & then just go get another 'Free to Good Home'

 

Think before you breed- if you havent got homes lined up then dont bother. It's the rescues and others that are picking up the pieces.

 

Added to picking up the pieces is the mentality that that is what rescues are for, as if owners have a right to count on rescues to clear up for them.

I wish some owners would show the same level of loyalty the dogs do.

And being disgusted and horrified at images such as these....

Jack does not make a fluffy pet owners or an anti, nor a PETA supporter, but just how much is a dogs life worth to some?

 

Why are many rescues against new owners working their dogs? Because they see all too often the aftermath when a dog is no longer of use. They watch the coming and going of new fads, hence so many bullxs in rescue, and see DAILY how disposable mans best friend is.

 

A little thought from a minority would make a huge difference.

 

 

Hear, hear.

 

I posted a link to the images of Jack in another THL thread concerning cruelty, and so far it's drawn no comments at all...

[CarraghsGem 92]

I've not been posting on site for a while.

 

But as well as Doglost- I run my own rescue. 12 months ago we may have seen a couple of lurchers or working dogs a month- coming through the pound.

 

Now its every week, saluki x, collie/grey x, greys - now all these dogs belong to some one- they dont just 'appear' from nowhere. I see all the STOLEN/MISSING threads. Terriers, Patterdales

 

Yet even when these dogs are plastered all over Doglost & we are telling you they have been found- no one claims them - WHY???

 

Sorry but I do think dogs are been overbred & if you are going to work your dog & then had enough of it - then do the right thing by it. Its served you by giving you your fun.

 

We have just caught after 6 weeks f trying a saluki x male thats injured. Someone WATCHED a bloke throw a greyhound into a canal- its made it to a patch of reeds but we cannot get to it as canal drained. Thats blatant cruelty.

 

I have some good friends that work their dogs- but I also know others that I wouldnt give a goldfish to - that wouldnt think twice bout dumping dog & then just go get another 'Free to Good Home'

 

Think before you breed- if you havent got homes lined up then dont bother. It's the rescues and others that are picking up the pieces.

 

Added to picking up the pieces is the mentality that that is what rescues are for, as if owners have a right to count on rescues to clear up for them.

I wish some owners would show the same level of loyalty the dogs do.

And being disgusted and horrified at images such as these....

Jack does not make a fluffy pet owners or an anti, nor a PETA supporter, but just how much is a dogs life worth to some?

 

Why are many rescues against new owners working their dogs? Because they see all too often the aftermath when a dog is no longer of use. They watch the coming and going of new fads, hence so many bullxs in rescue, and see DAILY how disposable mans best friend is.

 

A little thought from a minority would make a huge difference.

 

 

Hear, hear.

 

I posted a link to the images of Jack in another THL thread concerning cruelty, and so far it's drawn no comments at all...

 

i saw that and was saddened by it, forgot to post anything..... meant to post, guess i was distracted by facebook.