tail guards

[eye in the sky 0]

hi all do tail guards affect the birds flight

[Alex Brown 7]

hi all do tail guards affect the birds flight

 

Of course they will, you only have the guard on for travelling or on a kill to prevent damage.

 

Alex

[jasper65 6]

hi all do tail guards affect the birds flight

 

To be honest I only started using tail guards in the last few years on Hawks! there's not realy that much point when they're Hooded during the initial manning period, on the other hand if you're not Hooding a Parent Reared bird straight out of the aviary then I have no idea as I Hood all mine. from a Falcon point of view! Never....

 

I had some old patterns laying about and knocked a few up using Xray paper a few years back, for some reason started useing them ever since ....

 

Jasper

[highflyer25 22]

tail gaurds are a must.

you wait all that time for a nice new tail, and then you dont use one.

you cannot fly with one on,but they are a must when they are on a kill,

[jasper65 6]

tail gaurds are a must.

you wait all that time for a nice new tail, and then you dont use one.

you cannot fly with one on,but they are a must when they are on a kill,

 

I wouldn't go that far! you won't see many Falcons with tail guards and go back a good few years you wouldn't see Hawks with them either includeing passage and Haggard Goshawks. if a Bird is Hooded its not going to be bateing about, when its more ammicable and steady after the manning process and left out to weather bareheaded it shouldn't be Bateing about then either...

 

Took my tail guard off my P/R Gos this morning as Frankly I don't need it, its Hooded and being manned with the use of the Hood. thankfully also my birds don't mantle all over kills so I don't need a tail guard then either, just a few example of some of my different P/R Gos's through the years without tail guards on kills....

[highflyer25 22]

i would go that far it saves getting fret marks in the new deck feathers ,and it saves damaging the folicals in the parsons nose...so in my eyes they are a must!

[DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20]

tail gaurds are a must.

you wait all that time for a nice new tail, and then you dont use one.

you cannot fly with one on,but they are a must when they are on a kill,

 

I wouldn't go that far! you won't see many Falcons with tail guards and go back a good few years you wouldn't see Hawks with them either includeing passage and Haggard Goshawks. if a Bird is Hooded its not going to be bateing about, when its more ammicable and steady after the manning process and left out to weather bareheaded it shouldn't be Bateing about then either...

 

Took my tail guard off my P/R Gos this morning as Frankly I don't need it, its Hooded and being manned with the use of the Hood. thankfully also my birds don't mantle all over kills so I don't need a tail guard then either, just a few example of some of my different P/R Gos's through the years without tail guards on kills....

 

Jasper we are going to need one of your massive pure Finish goshawks for this Bunny

 

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[Alex Brown 7]

i would go that far it saves getting fret marks in the new deck feathers ,and it saves damaging the folicals in the parsons nose...so in my eyes they are a must!

 

Fret marks are more commonly caused by stress not banging the feathers about, so what good would one do stopping stress..none. Man the bird properly keep it stress free and you will barely have fret marks if at all. I use tail sheaths on imprints as they have a great habit of backing of on their tail early on when on a kill. Or at the start when I am boxing birds for transport.

 

But a tail sheath will never be a good excuse for poor management or manning of the bird.

 

ATB

 

Alex

[bullet 129]

i would go that far it saves getting fret marks in the new deck feathers ,and it saves damaging the folicals in the parsons nose...so in my eyes they are a must!

why would you have a tail gaurd on your bird whilst its moulting, this is the only time you'd get the stress marks or if its a youngster, but even then it wouldnt be hard penned!

i always use my tail gaurd when traveling,on a kill or out on the high perch, i take it off when flying or if i soak him down