jiggy 3,209 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Did any lads get much success crossing wheatens with digging dogs. I don't think I've ever seen a first cross or 3/4 black dog 1/4 wheaten for example. I know if the digging dog breeding is right then the cross is unnecessary but still a few of the old boys probably experimented with them. Quote Link to post
kirstysdad 827 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Many moons ago seen a 3/4 lake land 1/4 wheaten came up small enough for earth work hard animal size would be a issue mate had Glen very small for breed did very well with her had a couple of litters from her to a lakie I even had a pup from one of the litters they did ok this was a long time ago Quote Link to post
Bobkelly.bk123 114 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 They are som very good dogs around that Have Wheaton in them I keep 1/4 Wheaton in my terriers two Quote Link to post
chesney 5,445 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would ya have crossed them into patterdales bk a man told me to do it a few year back with a wheaton dog he had he reckoned once I bred them down to 3/4 pat and on they should be some decent stuff there was sorry afterward never gave it a try. Quote Link to post
Bobkelly.bk123 114 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Bordors for me But I see som crossed with small black dogs That are very good at there job If your going to do it test them out to the last 1th Then you see if there up to what you like to see in Them and if your happy with them go for it But black dogs you keep would not want to be Very big to start off with mate 1 Quote Link to post
chesney 5,445 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Bordors for me But I see som crossed with small black dogs That are very good at there job If your going to do it test them out to the last 1th Then you see if there up to what you like to see in Them and if your happy with them go for it But black dogs you keep would not want to be Very big to start off with mate . It might be something ta look at in the future Quote Link to post
donnyc 1,203 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 A pic I was given when over in the south... 8 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Did any lads get much success crossing wheatens with digging dogs. I don't think I've ever seen a first cross or 3/4 black dog 1/4 wheaten for example. I know if the digging dog breeding is right then the cross is unnecessary but still a few of the old boys probably experimented with them. Had a very good dog a few year back,dead now[Rusty]very hard dog at his work and took no prisoners,he was 3/4 lakie1/4 wheaten,actually have a grandson of his here at the moment. 1 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Yes and while I'm at it I'll tell you the reason for that, they're not on here for one very simple reason. They are deceased and some of them are family members and close friends family members so if I decide to share something that happened 50/60+ years ago i will. Some of the best Wheatens i seen work belonged to a digging club from NI,had some handy staffs aswell,you know the lads i on about General. 6 Quote Link to post
jiggy 3,209 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 Did any lads get much success crossing wheatens with digging dogs. I don't think I've ever seen a first cross or 3/4 black dog 1/4 wheaten for example. I know if the digging dog breeding is right then the cross is unnecessary but still a few of the old boys probably experimented with them. Had a very good dog a few year back,dead now[Rusty]very hard dog at his work and took no prisoners,he was 3/4 lakie1/4 wheaten,actually have a grandson of his here at the moment.that might be just what's needed to spice up a breeding that's softening off or to bring up the size in small dogs. Again if operating a tight line that's performing nobody would do it but if it's scatter bred then why not? The 2nd generation should conform to size. Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,734 Posted July 28, 2017 Report Share Posted July 28, 2017 A guy I know has wheaten x pats and they work well he owned the wheaten bitch and dug to her regular and owned the patt aswell now has pups from both that work well Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 I've dug to a few wheaten crosses but have never heard of a good line of working terrier that had wheaten as an outcross back in them. The staff cross always seemed to go on to better things. Doesn't mean there's none about but I've never heard of a line with wheaten in it that's stood the test of time. Fatmans wheaten cross was a helluva terrier and years ago I dug a few hundred times to a Wheaten / Cairn X Jack Russell. She wasn't 100% but we got a lot of sport from her over 7 or 8 seasons and I always reckoned it was the wheaten in her that carried the cairn and russell. I think the wheaten in her was McIntyre. Quote Link to post
Bobkelly.bk123 114 Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 They could not. got teats out Right be4 breeding off them or the had Notting to start off with 1th. If the terrier is not doing it right all the time there only 1 thing for him ? And if his best terrier around I would not breed off him bar he have brother and sister as good tIf any 1 have got it right they wil know what I'm. Saying and what hard work and long to get a line well over 70 years old That I was lucky to meet right men that had same Bordor as my safe but had most haad work don When all terrier com same size dogs and bitch And died for what the love doing then you have It right Quote Link to post
mnnewry 35 Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Seen 3 wheaten crosses in the field, first was, 3/4 wheaten 1/4 staff x Russell, very good dog worked till he was about 13 years old, second was a son out the first put to a straight half Russell/ Lakeland, only seen this dog and a few digs, didn't impress, third was a Wheaten / Russell bitch, straight half I believe and was small, pts 2nd season too much abuse, seen a straight half wheaten / patterdale in the yard looked like he seen a bit, too big for my liking, 1 Quote Link to post
darencross 72 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Hi all anybody have any Wheaton’s out of SK stuff P.M lines that have jacked . As a gd mate of mine have . After they where sent back to norther Ireland to S.K Quote Link to post
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