FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Well, Last night I ran my engine out of coolant (leak in a hose somewhere) and as a result it must have got hot (no temperature gauge in the van ). The engine management light came on and I pulled over, only then did it start flashing to tell me it was hot . Anyway, I went back today to see if it would start, it was turning over but not starting. How fecked id it, how will I fix it and whats it gonna cost me? Its a 57 plate astra van. Cheers FTB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RossM 8,149 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 probably warped the cylinder head so now no bore compression to fire it up, gasket kit say £130, head bolts say £50, coolant £20? head skim £40 6hrs labour at say £50 an hour? quite a bit mate, is it not in 3rd year of wrranty? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Aye but its done 120 k miles bud. If I was to get a mate to do the labour part, just parts how much roughly. And I thought the whole point of an engine management system was to stop shit like this happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
feed the bear 13 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Well, Last night I ran my engine out of coolant (leak in a hose somewhere) and as a result it must have got hot (no temperature gauge in the van ). The engine management light came on and I pulled over, only then did it start flashing to tell me it was hot . Anyway, I went back today to see if it would start, it was turning over but not starting. How fecked id it, how will I fix it and whats it gonna cost me? Its a 57 plate astra van. Cheers FTB Diesel or petrol? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Diesel mate. 1.7 cdti. Any help and info much appreciated lads. FTB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
feed the bear 13 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Diesel mate. 1.7 cdti. Any help and info much appreciated lads. FTB Diesels can take one hellava punishment mate. How did it stop, did it conk out was their any smoke etc? Most modern diesel engines have a safety mechanism which kicks in before the engine reaches critical temperature but acts like it has. You'd have done more damage if it was a say, frosty morning and watch when you refil it you add anti freeze. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 It cut out as if electronically. No bangs no smoke and it wasnae even as if steam was pissing from it. Aye it was hot, but I've seen engines a lot hotter. After a while it was almost as if it had cooled down. Hopefully there is no damage and the electric management hs done its fecking job. Otherwise I will be stormin into the nearest vauxhaul dealer and kicking up f**k. This is the second time it has had a leaking cooling system. Aparently there is a hose that rubs against something and wears through after a while. A 'common problem' the mechanic told me last time. Aye that's feckin great. All this talk of cylinder heads and new engines has me shitting it. Lol FTB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
feed the bear 13 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 It cut out as if electronically. No bangs no smoke and it wasnae even as if steam was pissing from it. Aye it was hot, but I've seen engines a lot hotter. After a while it was almost as if it had cooled down. Hopefully there is no damage and the electric management hs done its fecking job. Otherwise I will be stormin into the nearest vauxhaul dealer and kicking up f**k. This is the second time it has had a leaking cooling system. Aparently there is a hose that rubs against something and wears through after a while. A 'common problem' the mechanic told me last time. Aye that's feckin great. All this talk of cylinder heads and new engines has me shitting it. Lol FTB Sounds like the management system has kicked in and is stopping the engine from starting. I an 100% certain it isn't a head gasket... Way to tell if it is is check your oil in the dip stick, if their is no water contamination i.e it is just black oil and not a yucky white/yellow substance then your head is fine. It will be mate. I think you'll might need to get a computer attached to it to see what the managment fault is, I reckon thats why it wont start and I'd get the temp gauge sorted at the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
feed the bear 13 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 This might sound a stupid question but were you going up a steep hill at the tiume fully loaded or giving it a bit of welly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Aye mate a was giving it some. Lol. But nothing more than usual. Now I think about it I was also going up hill. Appreciate the help mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Also when I went to start it today the yellow light stayed on indicating the engine still thinks there's a fault. Which is maybe why it won't let it start. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
feed the bear 13 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Also when I went to start it today the yellow light stayed on indicating the engine still thinks there's a fault. Which is maybe why it won't let it start. Exactly mate. If the head gasket was away it would still run but the oil and water would mix and loads of white smoke would come out the back..... it ain't what is wrong. A wee trick you might try is flick the ignition on and off a good 20/30 times... this sometimes resets the system..... BTW, keep the fact I'm giving you advice to yourself, I have a reputation of being a b*****d to uphold..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
feed the bear 13 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Aye mate a was giving it some. Lol. But nothing more than usual. Now I think about it I was also going up hill. Appreciate the help mate. I thought so mate. If you had a temp gauge lol, you'd notice it never moves but for some reason as soon as your testing the engine i.e up a hill giving it welly and the temp rises because of less water etc, the management system thinks.... oh oh..... tools down boys lol..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 What does that mean lol. Cheers for the advice, its put my mind at ease a bit. Atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 hope you get it sorted mate,and it dont cost to much bud Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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