those taliban need wiped out.

[scothunter 12,609]

They have'nt lost but there not winning, should just nuke the place, in fact most of the middle east!!

 

spoken like a real terrorist

 

the taliban control over 95% of afghanistan if thats not winning what is?

 

where did you get the 95% pluck it out you arse!oh and do you actually hunt,or did you join to have your say on this thread?

 

Funny I was thinking the same thing about you..you spend the biggest part of the week in here talking shite and constantly contradicting your self.

 

 

And your drawn to these threads that you find distastefulllike flies to shit.never had a stalker before,but your doing a grand job.im not even gonna ask you to show me where i have contradicted myself,as you your just full of accusations aswell shit.

[littletimmy 71]

 

 

Funny I was thinking the same thing about you..you spend the biggest part of the week in here talking shite and constantly contradicting your self.

 

:clapper:

[matt the feret man 2]

has any body been there i know i have last year infact i was in the biggest op with the most casualty's called panthers claw alot of you chat shit like 'nuke them' and stuff like that but for every1 who reads this and take drugs yes even weed 86% of drug money is fueling terrist org TALIBAN,AL'Q' THE LIST IS ENDLESS so if nobody buys it they have no outlet for it taliban stands for freedom in pashtue there native tounge it is not every1 that wears a 'rag' on there head it is there people that wear a black one lol.all joking aside we stuck our dicks in a hornets nest now we cant get out the world need us it will take a few more years but we british are one hell of a race and we will do it so i will say this and leave it FROM THE GARDENS OF ENGLAND TO THE VALLEY'S OF WALES TO THE FLOWER OF SCOTLAND WE WILL NEVER FAIL UNITED WITH ULSTER WITH HEARTS SO TRUE COMON EVERYBODE LETS FLY THE RED,WHITE AND BLUE..........................

 

 

SORRY ABOUT SPELLING,GRAMMER AND A BIG SORRY IF I HAVE OFFENDED ANYBODY

[elpc69 0]

has any body been there i know i have last year infact i was in the biggest op with the most casualty's called panthers claw alot of you chat shit like 'nuke them' and stuff like that but for every1 who reads this and take drugs yes even weed 86% of drug money is fueling terrist org TALIBAN,AL'Q' THE LIST IS ENDLESS so if nobody buys it they have no outlet for it taliban stands for freedom in pashtue there native tounge it is not every1 that wears a 'rag' on there head it is there people that wear a black one lol.all joking aside we stuck our dicks in a hornets nest now we cant get out the world need us it will take a few more years but we british are one hell of a race and we will do it so i will say this and leave it FROM THE GARDENS OF ENGLAND TO THE VALLEY'S OF WALES TO THE FLOWER OF SCOTLAND WE WILL NEVER FAIL UNITED WITH ULSTER WITH HEARTS SO TRUE COMON EVERYBODE LETS FLY THE RED,WHITE AND BLUE..........................

 

 

SORRY ABOUT SPELLING,GRAMMER AND A BIG SORRY IF I HAVE OFFENDED ANYBODY

 

Luckly I don't take drugs erm ....well weed occasionally but thats from a guy who couldn't spell terrorist never mind be one :crazy: but as far as homegrown is concerned, he's James Bond!

 

But I know what you saying!!

 

Unluckly my landlord is a Muslim and I doubt he would be happy flying the flag but there's one flying in my heart

[jaggafeen 1]

Taliban and Opium (poppy)

David Sassoon (1792-1864) could be the modern ‘Godfather’ of opium trade. Born into a Sephardic Jewish family in Baghdad, Iraq, David Sassoon set up the Sassoon Company in Bombay, India, in 1833. In 1844, he set up a branch in Hong Kong, and a year later, he set up his Shanghai branch on the Bund to cash in on the opium trade. At that time, about one-fifth of all opium brought into China was shipped on the Sassoon fleet. They brought China opium and British textiles and took away silk, tea and silver.

 

According to Israeli scholar Robert Rockaway - The first major American drug-lord was Arnold Rothstein By 1926, American Jewish underworld figures became prominently involved in smuggling and distributing opium and opiates in the United States. During the 1920s and 1930s Jews competed with Italians for dominance of the trade. The Italian-American's racketeering predominated during World War II. This was because of the Nazis because the Jewish criminals who supplied American distributors escaped to other countries for safety.

 

Ernie Biernbaum’s trading centers in Los Angeles and Miami, are estimated to distribute over % of the world's cocaine and a third of its heroin (aka Columbian drug mafia). Jews set up labs in the 1800s to process the opium from Bangkok and elsewhere. Marseilles was established as the worldwide base in the early 1800's.

 

Taliban banned ‘poppy’ and its cultivation fell to 94%, which sent alarms to Jewish drug-lords in the US, England and Israel. Since the ‘liberation of Afghanistan’ – the poppy cultivation is back with revenge. Taliban, according to the United Nations drug agency, had almost shut down opium-morphine-heroin production. America's ally, the Northern Alliance has revived the illicit trade. Since the US overthrew Taliban, opium cultivation has soared from 185 tons a year to 2,700.

 

According to UNODC Report (2006) on opium production in Afghanistan – “There was a record opium harvest, with total cultivation increasing by 59 per cent and production by 49 per cent in 2006. Afghanistan accounts for more than 90 per cent of global illegal opium output. The bulk of opium growth this year has been concentrated in Helmand and a few other highly insecure and insurgency-ridden provinces in the south.â€

 

“Today, Afghanistan, a US protectorate, is again the leading producer of heroin, accounting for 4,000 tons annually, 75% of total world production. The head of Russia's anti-drug agency calls the situation in Afghanistan `catastrophic.' Yet it is the Northern Alliance-run regime, and its US, Russian and NATO supporters, who are responsible for this drug epidemic. After Indochina and Central America, the US once again finds itself in bed with major drug dealers. The Bush Administration has reportedly ordered its own Drug Enforcement Agency agents in Pakistan to turn a blind eye to the narcotics dealing of its Northern Alliance allies,†– Eric Margolis, columnist, The Toronto Sun, 2003.

 

 

The world drug trade is a $ 600 billion per year international business and always has been controlled by the same people.

 

Ref:

 

http://www.bigeye.com/081703.htm

[jaggafeen 1]

Karzai 'protecting drug lords'

 

A former senior US anti-drug official has accused Afghanistan's president of playing the US "like a fiddle" and protecting drug lords in his country for political reasons.

 

Thomas Schweich, who until June served as US state department co-ordinator for counter-narcotics and justice reform for Afghanistan, said Hamid Karzai was impeding the so-called war on drugs.

 

But the US government underscored its continued support for Karzai on Thursday despite the allegations.

 

Schweich wrote in an article on the New York Times website on Wednesday that "narco-corruption went to the top of the Afghan government".

 

He said the Taliban fighting Karzai's government profited from drugs, but Karzai was reluctant to move against big drug lords in his political power base in the south, where most of the country's opium and heroin is produced.

 

"Karzai was playing us like a fiddle," Schweich wrote.

 

"The US would spend billions of dollars on infrastructure development; the US and its allies would fight the Taliban; Karzai's friends could get richer off the drug trade," he wrote.

 

"Karzai had Taliban enemies who profited from drugs but he had even more supporters who did."

 

Schweich also accused the Pentagon and some US generals of obstructing attempts to get military forces to assist and protect opium crop eradication drives.

 

'Warlord government'

 

Nato and US military commanders have been reluctant to get involved in the drug fight, arguing that destroying farmers' crops would alienate tribesmen and increase support for the Taliban.

 

Hillary Mann Leverett, a former US National Security Council official for Afghanistan, told Al Jazeera that the US knew that government ministers in Afghanistan, including the minister of defence in 2002, were involved in drug trafficking.

 

Afghan ministers at that time had little expertise but were appointed because "they were warlords, they were thugs, they represented various ethnic and sectarian constituencies", Mann Leverett said.

 

She added that the US government chose to work with them in an attempt to stop Afghanistan becoming a haven for al-Qaeda.

 

"Instead of funding the warlords we could have funded the UN to have a security peacekeeping force throughout the country.

 

"Instead we left Karzai without any troops, without any weapons, without any money, without any backing, to the warlords.

 

Gonzalo Gallegos, a state department spokesman, did not directly address Schweich's allegations but defended US policy and backing for Karzai.

 

"We know and understand that there is a corruption issue in Afghanistan but we're working with the sovereign government," Gallegos said on Thursday.

 

"President Karzai has shown us through word and deed that he is working with us to help improve the plight of that country."

 

Gallegos added that corruption was a deeply rooted problem and solving it would take time.

 

Production soaring

 

Drug production has skyrocketed since the US-led invasion that ousted the Taliban.

 

In 2007, nearly 200,000 hectares of land in Afghanistan was used to cultivate poppy - more than double the area in 2003 and the country produced 93 per cent of the world's supply of opium, the raw material of heroin.

 

Karzai says his government is succeeding in the war on drugs and has repeatedly promised his US backers that he is committed to rooting out endemic corruption and fighting the drug trade.

 

His counter-narcotics ministry says 20 of Afghanistan's 34 provinces will be poppy-free this year, compared to 13 provinces in 2007.

 

But in the south, cultivation remains rampant.

 

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/am...833723652.html

Edited September 19, 2010 by jaggafeen

[elpc69 0]

Karzai 'protecting drug lords'

 

A former senior US anti-drug official has accused Afghanistan's president of playing the US "like a fiddle" and protecting drug lords in his country for political reasons.

 

Thomas Schweich, who until June served as US state department co-ordinator for counter-narcotics and justice reform for Afghanistan, said Hamid Karzai was impeding the so-called war on drugs.

 

But the US government underscored its continued support for Karzai on Thursday despite the allegations.

 

Schweich wrote in an article on the New York Times website on Wednesday that "narco-corruption went to the top of the Afghan government".

 

He said the Taliban fighting Karzai's government profited from drugs, but Karzai was reluctant to move against big drug lords in his political power base in the south, where most of the country's opium and heroin is produced.

 

"Karzai was playing us like a fiddle," Schweich wrote.

 

"The US would spend billions of dollars on infrastructure development; the US and its allies would fight the Taliban; Karzai's friends could get richer off the drug trade," he wrote.

 

"Karzai had Taliban enemies who profited from drugs but he had even more supporters who did."

 

Schweich also accused the Pentagon and some US generals of obstructing attempts to get military forces to assist and protect opium crop eradication drives.

 

'Warlord government'

 

Nato and US military commanders have been reluctant to get involved in the drug fight, arguing that destroying farmers' crops would alienate tribesmen and increase support for the Taliban.

 

Hillary Mann Leverett, a former US National Security Council official for Afghanistan, told Al Jazeera that the US knew that government ministers in Afghanistan, including the minister of defence in 2002, were involved in drug trafficking.

 

Afghan ministers at that time had little expertise but were appointed because "they were warlords, they were thugs, they represented various ethnic and sectarian constituencies", Mann Leverett said.

 

She added that the US government chose to work with them in an attempt to stop Afghanistan becoming a haven for al-Qaeda.

 

"Instead of funding the warlords we could have funded the UN to have a security peacekeeping force throughout the country.

 

"Instead we left Karzai without any troops, without any weapons, without any money, without any backing, to the warlords.

 

Gonzalo Gallegos, a state department spokesman, did not directly address Schweich's allegations but defended US policy and backing for Karzai.

 

"We know and understand that there is a corruption issue in Afghanistan but we're working with the sovereign government," Gallegos said on Thursday.

 

"President Karzai has shown us through word and deed that he is working with us to help improve the plight of that country."

 

Gallegos added that corruption was a deeply rooted problem and solving it would take time.

 

Production soaring

 

Drug production has skyrocketed since the US-led invasion that ousted the Taliban.

 

In 2007, nearly 200,000 hectares of land in Afghanistan was used to cultivate poppy - more than double the area in 2003 – and the country produced 93 per cent of the world's supply of opium, the raw material of heroin.

 

Karzai says his government is succeeding in the war on drugs and has repeatedly promised his US backers that he is committed to rooting out endemic corruption and fighting the drug trade.

 

His counter-narcotics ministry says 20 of Afghanistan's 34 provinces will be poppy-free this year, compared to 13 provinces in 2007.

 

But in the south, cultivation remains rampant.

 

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/am...833723652.html

 

Ooh LOOK, you've started the Turban’ator off again copying and pasting from his terrorist propaganda websites...

 

Hasta la vista baby!

[Ideation 8,216]

All that stuff about 'every british soldier dying in afghanistan' in the last campaign. . . ... . . if that was true i wouldnt have been born. That was the 'First Anglo-Afghan' war. . . . .. . there were two following that one. Oh and forty men DID survive the first war. So get your facts right mate.

 

 

are you trying to deny the FACT that the british army numbering 16500 was wiped out?

50 were captured and near all survived to be subsequently released after a ransom was paid including Sir Robert Sale's wife, Lady Florentia Sale. Nor was Brydon the only European to survive the trek from Kabul to Jalalabad without spending time in captivity, by Brydon's own account a "greek merchant", Mr Baness, also made it to Jalalabad arriving two days after Brydon but surviving for only one day

 

50 survivors out of 16500 i would say that is a wipeout

 

 

Are you conveniently not answering to the point that this did not occur during the last invasion as there have actually been three following this? The fact that joined an online hunting forum and expend so much energy trying to 'combat' the racial and social prejudiced displayed (rightly or wrongly) by a group of people who are obviously not going to be changing their views anytime soon . . . . . makes me seriously question your intellect. . . . . . . and funnily enough your ability to copy and paste great swathes on information you found on the internet doesn't really impress very much.

[Ideation 8,216]

Karzai 'protecting drug lords'

 

A former senior US anti-drug official has accused Afghanistan's president of playing the US "like a fiddle" and protecting drug lords in his country for political reasons.

 

Thomas Schweich, who until June served as US state department co-ordinator for counter-narcotics and justice reform for Afghanistan, said Hamid Karzai was impeding the so-called war on drugs.

 

But the US government underscored its continued support for Karzai on Thursday despite the allegations.

 

Schweich wrote in an article on the New York Times website on Wednesday that "narco-corruption went to the top of the Afghan government".

 

He said the Taliban fighting Karzai's government profited from drugs, but Karzai was reluctant to move against big drug lords in his political power base in the south, where most of the country's opium and heroin is produced.

 

"Karzai was playing us like a fiddle," Schweich wrote.

 

"The US would spend billions of dollars on infrastructure development; the US and its allies would fight the Taliban; Karzai's friends could get richer off the drug trade," he wrote.

 

"Karzai had Taliban enemies who profited from drugs but he had even more supporters who did."

 

Schweich also accused the Pentagon and some US generals of obstructing attempts to get military forces to assist and protect opium crop eradication drives.

 

'Warlord government'

 

Nato and US military commanders have been reluctant to get involved in the drug fight, arguing that destroying farmers' crops would alienate tribesmen and increase support for the Taliban.

 

Hillary Mann Leverett, a former US National Security Council official for Afghanistan, told Al Jazeera that the US knew that government ministers in Afghanistan, including the minister of defence in 2002, were involved in drug trafficking.

 

Afghan ministers at that time had little expertise but were appointed because "they were warlords, they were thugs, they represented various ethnic and sectarian constituencies", Mann Leverett said.

 

She added that the US government chose to work with them in an attempt to stop Afghanistan becoming a haven for al-Qaeda.

 

"Instead of funding the warlords we could have funded the UN to have a security peacekeeping force throughout the country.

 

"Instead we left Karzai without any troops, without any weapons, without any money, without any backing, to the warlords.

 

Gonzalo Gallegos, a state department spokesman, did not directly address Schweich's allegations but defended US policy and backing for Karzai.

 

"We know and understand that there is a corruption issue in Afghanistan but we're working with the sovereign government," Gallegos said on Thursday.

 

"President Karzai has shown us through word and deed that he is working with us to help improve the plight of that country."

 

Gallegos added that corruption was a deeply rooted problem and solving it would take time.

 

Production soaring

 

Drug production has skyrocketed since the US-led invasion that ousted the Taliban.

 

In 2007, nearly 200,000 hectares of land in Afghanistan was used to cultivate poppy - more than double the area in 2003 – and the country produced 93 per cent of the world's supply of opium, the raw material of heroin.

 

Karzai says his government is succeeding in the war on drugs and has repeatedly promised his US backers that he is committed to rooting out endemic corruption and fighting the drug trade.

 

His counter-narcotics ministry says 20 of Afghanistan's 34 provinces will be poppy-free this year, compared to 13 provinces in 2007.

 

But in the south, cultivation remains rampant.

 

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/am...833723652.html

 

Ooh LOOK, you've started the Turban’ator off again copying and pasting from his terrorist propaganda websites...

 

Hasta la vista baby!

 

He IS a muppet and he IS copying and pasting, but that stuff is actually correct. The Taliban were actually very anti opium in some areas and with them being removed or needing revenue desperately the smack is back!

[littletimmy 71]

 

Ooh LOOK, you've started the Turban’ator off again copying and pasting from his terrorist propaganda websites...

 

Hasta la vista baby!

 

 

I like how you are so anti-muslim , yet don't mind paying a muslims wages(in terms of renting his house from him) providing him a living in the very country you wish was rid of them.(muslims) How very noble of you ...

[scothunter 12,609]

 

Ooh LOOK, you've started the Turban’ator off again copying and pasting from his terrorist propaganda websites...

 

Hasta la vista baby!

 

 

I like how you are so anti-muslim , yet don't mind paying a muslims wages(in terms of renting his house from him) providing him a living in the very country you wish was rid of them.(muslims) How very noble of you ...

i like how you were not commenting on this thread anymore,as we are just racist bigots and thick fucks.oh and yet you have been back to post several times.not the actions of someone who is more intelliegent than the rest of us.

[elpc69 0]

 

Ooh LOOK, you've started the Turban’ator off again copying and pasting from his terrorist propaganda websites...

 

Hasta la vista baby!

 

 

I like how you are so anti-muslim , yet don't mind paying a muslims wages(in terms of renting his house from him) providing him a living in the very country you wish was rid of them.(muslims) How very noble of you ...

 

Indeed and I was waiting for that comment!

 

I recently moved here due to an aggravated burglary and was the only place I could get quickly, I don't expect you to understand due to your sexual orientation but being a father and husband comes before my beliefs, in fact most things in my life!

[littletimmy 71]

I like how ignorant you persist on being scots hunter, your presented with undeniable facts (by several other people too) yet you fail to be able to comprehend or take in any of it, preferring to just dismiss it and resort to "anti-british muslim-lovers". Shame you cannot see past your own hand.

 

Oh and elpc, surely if muslims are all so evil, you wouldn't risk your familys safety by moving them into a muslims house? After all they all wish to kill us infidels, they are all terrorists and all expert bomb makers, arn't they? What a useless excuse, theres no short supply of propertys to rent. Maybe your just bitter that your landlord is more successful than yourself. Aww

Edited September 19, 2010 by littletimmy

[scothunter 12,609]

I like how ignorant you persist on being scots hunter, your presented with undeniable facts (by several other people too) yet you fail to be able to comprehend or take in any of it, preferring to just dismiss it and resort to "anti-british muslim-lovers". Shame you cannot see past your own hand.

 

Oh and elpc, surely if muslims are all so evil, you wouldn't risk your familys safety by moving them into a muslims house? After all they all wish to kill us infidels, they are all terrorists and all expert bomb makers, arn't they? What a useless excuse, theres no short supply of propertys to rent. Maybe your just bitter that your landlord is more successful than yourself. Aww

 

ok like i have said to undisputed where are these facts that you keep refering to?i will happily answer them,and if im wrong i will admit it.have done on many occasions before.just like him you call out these accusations and yet never actually show proof of them when asked.i have no problem with critisim and if im wrong ill happily retract what i said.however its the same old from you liberal lefties full of shit.

 

and if your meaning all that conspirecy BS as undeniable facts,then your right im not buying into that at all.

Edited September 19, 2010 by scothunter

[littletimmy 71]

Read this thread its full of facts, i'm not going to go through it and re post them becuase you were too ignorant(or stupid) to see them first time around. There you go again, because i don't agree with you im a liberal leftie lol

 

I have more morals and stronger views on immigrants than you, but then you wouldn't know that, becuase when i pointed out a few simple facts that your original post, the majority of which was not taliban you started screaming "muslim lover." From what i could see was down to me showing your video to be factually incorrect and you not liking that. Something you have persisted on doing throughout this thread.

 

I think we need a certain amount of immigrantion otherwise nothing new would be brought to our shores and we would never advance. But more control is needed. As for what they do in there own countries, that down to them, leave them to it.

 

 

As for the cons theories, theres many holes in them but it does not rule out the fact there could be some truth to them. I for one don't know either way. What i do know is the yanks have admitted to "allowing" great assaults, so they could decieve the public and enter war. Pearl harbour for instance. Our governments arn't as squeeky clean as you would like to believe. They wouldn't be the super powers they are if they was.

Edited September 19, 2010 by littletimmy