anyone ever had a dog with no stamina??

[tote 854]

Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked.

 

If that was the case how come some greyhounds out of the same litter are only sprinters, some excell at middle distance races and some might be marathon runners? They'll all have been reared the same and trained the same but if it's not in them you'll never put it in them, fact.

[Bosun11 537]

Christ, five pages of utter shite! Some have spoke as it is and was but who's argueing, the majority speaking all seem to be the decent dog lads on here???

Simples, you can't make a distance runner out of a sprinter!

Yep, you may get the exception to the rule, it's in all forms of nature BUT anyone who reads this and dosen't recognise why you'd want a crossbred over a pure, better be under 16 or needs to go back to rolling 'worms' in the white room (i gotta problem Nurse Ratched!!)

Enough 'detail' is out there!!!!

Our dogs have been formed by breeding the best to the best, irrispective of the shite thats getting churned out in 'a lurcher saturated' world. And if it's, 2 runs or 102, YOU know what'll do the job, and thats whatever suits YOU!!

Buy a dog for a job, an 'informed' guess and get on with it!!!

[Wild Whippies 11]

Your neither wrong or right.

Animals can be born with either equal amounts of fast and slow twitch muscle fibres or a predisposition to one type.

Dogs born predisposed to sprinting will have a greater amount of fast twitch muscle fibre.

Dogs with stamina will have a greater amount of slow twitch fibre.

Dependant upon the type of training done, a particular type of fibre can be stimulated.

However if a dog is naturally a sprinter (i.e. large muscle mass) a trainer will be at an instant disadvantage trying to train this type of dog for stamina and vice versa. I'm not saying it cannot be done, just that it's a lot harder.

 

Non-ped whippets are predisposed to fast twitch muscle fibre. It has been bred deliberately that way for it's purpose of sprint racing. An owner cannot be dissapointed if such a dog is unsuccesful coursing through fields.

 

Lurchers are bred to be hardy dogs with great stamina, they are not bred for sprinting and as such excel at their purpose as a working dog.

 

I have a number of peds and non-ped whippets. The pedigrees whilst comparably slow will trek through fields for hours. The non-ped typically sprint back and forth during their walks.

 

There's a lot to be said for buying or breeding a dog fit for it's particular purpose. Buying one that isn't then complaining about it's poor performance says more about the owner than the dog to me.

[Bosun11 537]

Your neither wrong or right.

Animals can be born with either equal amounts of fast and slow twitch muscle fibres or a predisposition to one type.

Dogs born predisposed to sprinting will have a greater amount of fast twitch muscle fibre.

Dogs with stamina will have a greater amount of slow twitch fibre.

Dependant upon the type of training done, a particular type of fibre can be stimulated.

However if a dog is naturally a sprinter (i.e. large muscle mass) a trainer will be at an instant disadvantage trying to train this type of dog for stamina and vice versa. I'm not saying it cannot be done, just that it's a lot harder.

 

Non-ped whippets are predisposed to fast twitch muscle fibre. It has been bred deliberately that way for it's purpose of sprint racing. An owner cannot be dissapointed if such a dog is unsuccesful coursing through fields.

 

Lurchers are bred to be hardy dogs with great stamina, they are not bred for sprinting and as such excel at their purpose as a working dog.

 

I have a number of peds and non-ped whippets. The pedigrees whilst comparably slow will trek through fields for hours. The non-ped typically sprint back and forth during their walks.

 

There's a lot to be said for buying or breeding a dog fit for it's particular purpose. Buying one that isn't then complaining about it's poor performance says more about the owner than the dog to me.

 

Err, yup, think thats just about what I was sayin...?.....!!!!

[Wild Whippies 11]

Wasn't replying specifically to your post Bosun 11, more the discussion as to whether either ability is bred or trained into dogs.

[Bosun11 537]

Wasn't replying specifically to your post Bosun 11, more the discussion as to whether either ability is bred or trained into dogs.

Ha ha, that i know WW, but your last line 'hit true', thats what i'm postin about! Though it does make me laugh at some of the 'informed' reply's on this thred!

 

[Guest LancsUK]

I read in a book that an over-muscled dog will lack in stamina & speed.. Whether it be a saluki cross or a whippet I suppose this is true?

[Wild Whippies 11]

It depends what you mean by overmuscled. If you mean double muscling (myostatin mucle related hypertrophy) then yes these dogs don't demonstrate speed very well. I own a ''bully whippet'' as they are known. She's incredibly muscular to look at but the muscle mass is so big for her body that basically her blood supply can't fulfil the demands of the muscles on her. If she goes to run she will power off from a start quite impressively but within moments she has to slow down because she is getting muscle fatigue.

She wasn't intentionally bred, it was an accidental mating where we had to have DNA tests done but because of her condition we felt it unfair to rehome her. The phenomenom is not unknown in non-ped whippets as we breed for speed.

This link about the phenomenom and the research done might be interesting to some.

Myostatin Muscle Related Hypertrophy and the racing whippet

[Guest michael.hudson7]

seen a suluki x that was only good for a few runs.

 

Never believing that..... admit it, you made that up right???

Totally agree this dog is the stamina machine of the dog world i own a 1st cross he never stops, massive lie.