Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 I backed the hound up as i said every pure hounds a different beast to the next i have seen hundreds as a parader and some could run 800yrd races twice a week even though no one obviously ever races a hound over 800yrds twice a week but some would have happily most lurchers are only running 100-200 max each slip with a break inbetween so a hound of that capability could do easy ten 100yrd slips getting its break inbetween. As for the whippet coment i have owned them all my life and ill never have a kennel without a couple i can walk all day ferreting hills and they will still be happy to take the evening walk with my mothers pets well the ones who made retirement . i rate the whippet highly as a more than capable and versatile little dog with as much if not more in some case's capability than a lurcher of the same size i also think if there were as many pure bred hounds worked it would be inevetable some would be more capable than any lurcher although you could go through 20 and not have one worth talking about nowadays. I agree with you up to a point seen some really good whippet and Greys work well. But the the whole reason the lurcher evolved into these x's was largely due to the shortcomings of the aforementioned breeds ie stamina lack of coat etc. Not entirely true. Originally the greyhound was THE coursing and hunting dog of choice, and would be used to tackle all quarry, there were several 'types' of greyhound, some regional, i.e 'Scotch greyhound'. They were all superb hunting dogs. When Greyhound racing became big, many of the attributes that had made them good hunting dogs were bred out in favour of traits handy for racing, so stamina went, and good coat, good feet, gameness etc and the focus was for sprint ability, pure speed etc. Same goes for the show world. Hence why folk a long time ago started to look further afield for blood to put into their greyhounds to get back some of what was lost. . . . . i.e Saluki for stamina etc. The Lurcher probably evolved as a reaction to certain game/dog laws that banned any common man from owning a running dog and hence they were bred with herding dogs etc to change their appearence and make them less obvious. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 I totaly agree but in all fairness the greyhound was used as any lurcher is today before the track days they are a diff type nowadays and i do agree thats why the introduction of other dogs and the lurcher was done but there would have been a time any greyhound could have caught a rabbit a hare and tackle a fox now and then with ease but them days are gone . Great post! That is the truth. You should know mate, your stags are a lot closer to what our greys used to be like, and are of course descended from the running dogs / greyhounds taken from the u.k etc to the states a long time ago. Thats pretty much exactly what they are. Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked. 1 Quote Link to post
feed the bear 13 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked. LOL............ If a dog doesn't posses stamina, just like speed, no amount of work will improve it that much. Yes, hard work will get a dog to its running weight, fitness levels but hopefully everyone who runs a dog has their dog to this level before the season starts.... 1 Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked. LOL............ If a dog doesn't posses stamina, just like speed, no amount of work will improve it that much. Yes, hard work will get a dog to its running weight, fitness levels but hopefully everyone who runs a dog has their dog to this level before the season starts.... Heard it all now.You cant improve a dogs stamina with hard work. Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked. LOL............ If a dog doesn't posses stamina, just like speed, no amount of work will improve it that much. Yes, hard work will get a dog to its running weight, fitness levels but hopefully everyone who runs a dog has their dog to this level before the season starts.... Heard it all now.You cant improve a dogs stamina with hard work. of course you can you improve its fitness levels to increase its stamina you cant tell me 2 identical cross dogs say one has done nothing for 3 months and the other has had regular work and exercise the one thats had regular exercise and work is going to have bags more stamina compared to the other if you work them both the same night, different crosses have different peaks at fitness levels and different stamina levels 1 Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked. LOL............ If a dog doesn't posses stamina, just like speed, no amount of work will improve it that much. Yes, hard work will get a dog to its running weight, fitness levels but hopefully everyone who runs a dog has their dog to this level before the season starts.... Heard it all now.You cant improve a dogs stamina with hard work. of course you can you improve its fitness levels to increase its stamina you cant tell me 2 identical cross dogs say one has done nothing for 3 months and the other has had regular work and exercise the one thats had regular exercise and work is going to have bags more stamina compared to the other if you work them both the same night, different crosses have different peaks at fitness levels and different stamina levels Read my first post. Quote Link to post
MOO 730 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked. wrongfitness is improved with work Edited September 12, 2010 by MOO Quote Link to post
feed the bear 13 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked. LOL............ If a dog doesn't posses stamina, just like speed, no amount of work will improve it that much. Yes, hard work will get a dog to its running weight, fitness levels but hopefully everyone who runs a dog has their dog to this level before the season starts.... Heard it all now.You cant improve a dogs stamina with hard work. sigh........ OK, I'll explain as if your a retard, see if that helps..... Usain Bolt, fastest man on the planet, at the peak of his fitness, agreed? Do you think he'd win a marathon?.... Now think about it before you jump in..... He is at peak fitness and yet doesn't posses the same stamina as a long distance runner, why is that do you think? Now, back to a dog, yes an out of fit dog once exercised will gain stamina just like a fat, beer guzzling usain bolt would too but you ain't gonna change the way the man/dog is built by fitness. You understand now? Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Usain is one fast mother f****r. That boy is a freak of nature. I need a dog like that who can pile drive a coyote. Quote Link to post
autopsy42 1 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 I've a whippet x greyhound, goes like shit off a stick, will run rabbits all night, few runs on a hare and its frigged! Quote Link to post
SHARPSHOOTER! 40 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked. LOL............ If a dog doesn't posses stamina, just like speed, no amount of work will improve it that much. Yes, hard work will get a dog to its running weight, fitness levels but hopefully everyone who runs a dog has their dog to this level before the season starts.... This has got to be the biggest pill of pish a have read to date on THL. Were do you think dogs come from, or people or anything to that matter????? It takes hard work ,time and effort to get a dog toi the correct fitness level before even contemplaiting stamina levels . the two are toatall diffrent thing which require two diffrent training styles !!! FACT!!!!!!! WHERE DO ATHELETES GET THIS STUFF FROM?????? SPRINTERS AND DISTANCE RUNNERS ???? OH THATS RIGHT ,G0OD BREADING !!!! GET A GRIP AND READ WHAT YOU WRITE!!!!! 2 Quote Link to post
SHARPSHOOTER! 40 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked. LOL............ If a dog doesn't posses stamina, just like speed, no amount of work will improve it that much. Yes, hard work will get a dog to its running weight, fitness levels but hopefully everyone who runs a dog has their dog to this level before the season starts.... Heard it all now.You cant improve a dogs stamina with hard work. sigh........ OK, I'll explain as if your a retard, see if that helps..... Usain Bolt, fastest man on the planet, at the peak of his fitness, agreed? Do you think he'd win a marathon?.... Now think about it before you jump in..... He is at peak fitness and yet doesn't posses the same stamina as a long distance runner, why is that do you think? Now, back to a dog, yes an out of fit dog once exercised will gain stamina just like a fat, beer guzzling usain bolt would too but you ain't gonna change the way the man/dog is built by fitness. You understand now? AGAIN ANOTHER PILE OF PISH , SPRINTING,SPRINTING TRANING / LONG DISTANCE RUNNING, TRAINING HAS TWO DIFFRENT STYLES . THIS ISN'T A FITTNESS ITS A STYLE. IF I CANT RUNN WORTH A f**k BUT CAN LIFT 1/4 TONNE WHAT AM A??? A WEIGHT LIFFTER AT THE TOP OF HIS GAME !!! I WOULD THINK AM FIT FOR MY SPORT , AM A NOT ?????? 2 Quote Link to post
SHARPSHOOTER! 40 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 Dogs arent born with stamina.That only comes with hard work and plenty of it.Irrespective of cross or land worked. wrongfitness is improved with work ELABORATE???????? Quote Link to post
Paul in North Lincs 15 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 pics? i had a greyhound (my avatar pic) could take off like a rocket but tired very quickly after a good few runs...an as thick as two short planks as well lol...atb chris I had one to.........couldn't hack the regular work. Couldn't knock its drive though...... and it was an ex track dog that ran well at Nottingham out of Larkhill Joe. Quote Link to post
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