problems with my harris

[nitecrawler32 0]

how are yous doing just looking for some advice on my harris he's 20 wk old, trainig him at the mo and lately he wont land on my glove when im flying him. instead he flys towards me at full speed and tries to grab the food and head back to where he's been perched. only started doing this the last week or so.... this is my first bird and im begining to get fairly stressed wit him. any help would be appreciated

thanks in advance

[hunterdave 27]

he might be a bit to low take him up 1/4oz

[nitecrawler32 0]

dave how are ye doing mate. im still trying to figure out his exact flying weight. this morning i weighed him and he was 1.lb 6oz. you reckon i should push him up to 1.lb 8 ish????.

[jasper65 6]

could well be a confidence thing! if he was pushed up too soon before he was confident with you and the fist this will cause a bird to cut you over. you could look back at the weight and distance he was when he wasn't cutting you over or spend more time giving him some fairly short recalls where the birds trouble free and comfortable with....

 

there's a few reasons why the bird could be doing this! its a hard one without seeing or handling the bird.....

[nitecrawler32 0]

could well be a confidence thing! if he was pushed up too soon before he was confident with you and the fist this will cause a bird to cut you over. you could look back at the weight and distance he was when he wasn't cutting you over or spend more time giving him some fairly short recalls where the birds trouble free and comfortable with....

 

there's a few reasons why the bird could be doing this! its a hard one without seeing or handling the bird.....

 

 

cheers jasper thanks for the advice. i think your right i might have got a bit ahead of myself and had him flying long enough distances fairly quickly after taking him off the creance. ill try shortening the distance, hopefully that'll give results

[jasper65 6]

I'm sure you'll have it Boomeranging to you in no time pal

 

atb Jasp

[gilly-93 31]

You say lately he wont land on your glove, does this mean he was ok previously....or has he always done it? like jasper says could be a confidence thing, if he's coming for the food he's hungry,,,, are you rushing things a bit? bit more information would help regards liam.

[nitecrawler32 0]

I'm sure you'll have it Boomeranging to you in no time pal

 

atb Jasp

 

ha i hope so jasp

[nitecrawler32 0]

You say lately he wont land on your glove, does this mean he was ok previously....or has he always done it? like jasper says could be a confidence thing, if he's coming for the food he's hungry,,,, are you rushing things a bit? bit more information would help regards liam.

 

liam hows the form. this is the end of my second week flying him off the creance. week 1 he was fine came back to me and landed on the glove no problems. i dunno what i done wrong there at the start of this week he just started to snatch at the food and wouldnt land on the glove unless i went just a few feet from him. was flyin him this morning i thought he was gonna take my head off he was coming in so fast and tryin to grab food and fly off. took me about an hour to get him to come out of a tree and land on the glove. done about 3 fly by's in that hour before actually landing on the glove.i must be rushing things as you said. plus its my first bird so i suppose im bound to be doing somthing wrong

[gilly-93 31]

It don't always go easy mate, our first harris called stella who sadley died was an absolute minter we dint have to do anything with her she just did it, she never gave us any trouble at all.

When we got ruby,talk about grief 100% totally different but we got there in the end.. rubys just starting her proper first season after the moult and is looking great, if i was you i would put him back on the creonce and start doing some close work with him, basicaly take a step back and let him settle down.... it will all come good, have a look at my thread 'My first hawk' in the broadwing section,it'll pass an hour if nowt else.... liam.

[highflyer25 22]

Hi mate are you flying him in the garden if so you need to stop .as soon as he is coming full length of creance in the garden ,well as far as you can in the garden he should be flown free.

when they snatch its not because they are low mate its because they usually to high and they dont want to work for the food.

allso if you are flying him back to thr place where you are calling him from he will keep baiting back there.

get him out and get plenty of quary under him....atvb.

[nitecrawler32 0]

Hi mate are you flying him in the garden if so you need to stop .as soon as he is coming full length of creance in the garden ,well as far as you can in the garden he should be flown free.

when they snatch its not because they are low mate its because they usually to high and they dont want to work for the food.

allso if you are flying him back to thr place where you are calling him from he will keep baiting back there.

get him out and get plenty of quary under him....atvb.

 

highflyer howya gettin on. cheers for the advice. he was 1.lb 6oz when he started to do it..... i thought at that weight he was low enough like? a mate of mine has his brother from the same clutch and he has him at around 1.lb 8oz and he comes back to him no bother?i couldnt drop him lower than 1.lb 6oz could i?and sorry what do u mean .... if im flying him back to the place im calling him from????

ta for replying chief

[EskdaleHawks 8]

how are yous doing just looking for some advice on my harris he's 20 wk old, trainig him at the mo and lately he wont land on my glove when im flying him. instead he flys towards me at full speed and tries to grab the food and head back to where he's been perched. only started doing this the last week or so.... this is my first bird and im begining to get fairly stressed wit him. any help would be appreciated

thanks in advance

 

What weight was the bird when he was flying to the glove BEFORE! He started snatching? Was the bird following on ON the creance before you flew him free?

Edited September 13, 2010 by EskdaleHawks

[highflyer25 22]

Hi mate are you flying him in the garden if so you need to stop .as soon as he is coming full length of creance in the garden ,well as far as you can in the garden he should be flown free.

when they snatch its not because they are low mate its because they usually to high and they dont want to work for the food.

allso if you are flying him back to thr place where you are calling him from he will keep baiting back there.

get him out and get plenty of quary under him....atvb.

 

highflyer howya gettin on. cheers for the advice. he was 1.lb 6oz when he started to do it..... i thought at that weight he was low enough like? a mate of mine has his brother from the same clutch and he has him at around 1.lb 8oz and he comes back to him no bother?i couldnt drop him lower than 1.lb 6oz could i?and sorry what do u mean .... if im flying him back to the place im calling him from????

ta for replying chief

hi mate what i mean is when you fly them in the garden they get used to it ,i made the same mistake (i think we all do.)that is his teritiory so he will never want to do nothing appart from land back on his perch.what i would do is take his weight back up and start again,,,start off with small jumps to the glove and them carry him back to where you are calling him from.and slowly start shaving his weight off until he is at his most responsive,but allways carry him back.

once you have him comming about 10 ft --stop in the garden and take him to a place where you can fly him full lenght of the creance.no more work in the garden should be done.that way you can obtaine his correc t flying weight and get him free..atvb....

[nitecrawler32 0]

Hi mate are you flying him in the garden if so you need to stop .as soon as he is coming full length of creance in the garden ,well as far as you can in the garden he should be flown free.

when they snatch its not because they are low mate its because they usually to high and they dont want to work for the food.

allso if you are flying him back to thr place where you are calling him from he will keep baiting back there.

get him out and get plenty of quary under him....atvb.

 

highflyer howya gettin on. cheers for the advice. he was 1.lb 6oz when he started to do it..... i thought at that weight he was low enough like? a mate of mine has his brother from the same clutch and he has him at around 1.lb 8oz and he comes back to him no bother?i couldnt drop him lower than 1.lb 6oz could i?and sorry what do u mean .... if im flying him back to the place im calling him from????

ta for replying chief

hi mate what i mean is when you fly them in the garden they get used to it ,i made the same mistake (i think we all do.)that is his teritiory so he will never want to do nothing appart from land back on his perch.what i would do is take his weight back up and start again,,,start off with small jumps to the glove and them carry him back to where you are calling him from.and slowly start shaving his weight off until he is at his most responsive,but allways carry him back.

once you have him comming about 10 ft --stop in the garden and take him to a place where you can fly him full lenght of the creance.no more work in the garden should be done.that way you can obtaine his correc t flying weight and get him free..atvb....

 

 

 

im kinda going the start again route as we speak. im sitting out in my shed now with him on the glove and he seems so much more at ease totally relaxed either preening his feathers or sitting on 1 leg.for feed i have him jumping in the bac a couple of feet. y is it so important to carry him back to him perch???? his weight this evening befoe i fed him was 1lb 7oz and at that weight he is very keen to jump to the glove. you reckon i should put him back on the creance for a few days even tough i was flyin him independantly? thanks for ur advice muchly appreciated...