runforyourlife 361 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 ive never seen these fen dog's hunt up put the hare up chase it through rashy parks over wall's and fence's ,or up and down hill's for that matter,there just walked into the field and slipped when the hare get's up,these dog's have all the time in the world to work there hare because there is very little if any obstacle's to tackle while in pursuit,im not sayimg that all saluki crosses are no good but all the bragged about fen dog's wouldn't do much up here,and the dog's people use round my area proabably wouldn't do down there,there's nothing wrong with a bit of saluki blood in a dog but to much up here is no good,i have never see one with good feet up here yet without stubb's or toe's been broken,and too much saluki in a dog make's them as thick as two plank's of wood,the question i asked at the start of the topic was what cross do u think would be better of suited up north,but the topic has been overturned into a argument about fen dog's atb ... Sorry mate, but that is absolute nonsense about the feet. My dog is a saluki x, and i run her on very very harsh ground....Never has she had f****d up feet(touch wood).... And as for you quote, makes them thick as two short planks... Do you know what you are talking about. A wouldnt consider a dog that can work to hand signals from a distance, thick... lol. Quote Link to post
luke 2 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 ive never seen these fen dog's hunt up put the hare up chase it through rashy parks over wall's and fence's ,or up and down hill's for that matter,there just walked into the field and slipped when the hare get's up,these dog's have all the time in the world to work there hare because there is very little if any obstacle's to tackle while in pursuit,im not sayimg that all saluki crosses are no good but all the bragged about fen dog's wouldn't do much up here,and the dog's people use round my area proabably wouldn't do down there,there's nothing wrong with a bit of saluki blood in a dog but to much up here is no good,i have never see one with good feet up here yet without stubb's or toe's been broken,and too much saluki in a dog make's them as thick as two plank's of wood,the question i asked at the start of the topic was what cross do u think would be better of suited up north,but the topic has been overturned into a argument about fen dog's atb ... the best way to get a good dog for up here is to breed to good hare dogs from our area an even better way is to get a pup out of a repeat mating that have proved there self in this area just my opinion mate Quote Link to post
bunks 4 Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 i obviosly no a bit more than u and [bANNED TEXT] a bit older if u think saluki's are brainy,they must have the same brains as yourself... Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 i obviosly no a bit more than u and [bANNED TEXT] a bit older if u think saluki's are brainy,they must have the same brains as yourself... Ok, top man... nothing clever about being a bit older, just means you'l probarbly die before me, lol..I can assure mate, she is very very clever.. I would go as far to say that she is brainier than my collie x! maybe i am making it up! Can i just ask you something Bunk, do you work? if so how many days? Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 i was just wondering has ive havent done much brown hare courseing in scotland what sort of terrian .i.e what size parks or fields you are talking about.. some pictures of the land would be great..... Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 i was just wondering has ive havent done much brown hare courseing in scotland what sort of terrian .i.e what size parks or fields you are talking about.. some pictures of the land would be great..... hiya pal, are your salukix's thick? Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) i was just wondering has ive havent done much brown hare courseing in scotland what sort of terrian .i.e what size parks or fields you are talking about.. some pictures of the land would be great..... hiya pal, are your salukix's thick? i will tell you when i get em back they have fooked off .... Edited September 16, 2010 by snoopdog Quote Link to post
riohog 5,707 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 a thick saluki in the scotish borders ! fields ae big enough Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 i was just wondering has ive havent done much brown hare courseing in scotland what sort of terrian .i.e what size parks or fields you are talking about.. some pictures of the land would be great..... hiya pal, are your salukix's thick? i will tell you when i get em back they have fooked off .... hahaha. 2 fields away saluki... Quote Link to post
luke 2 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 i was just wondering has ive havent done much brown hare courseing in scotland what sort of terrian .i.e what size parks or fields you are talking about.. some pictures of the land would be great..... small cow fields very little crop fields about here mate Quote Link to post
chester 147 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 google earth snoop to see the type of land the lads are talking about small cow paddocks lots and lots of barbwire thick hedges treble fences reed beds and woods and a 100yard slips in the top next field. Quote Link to post
feed the bear 13 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Now i don't want to stir up the ashes but i really do wonder what people think a "fen dog" is. From the dogs i have seen that can kill hares on the Fens regularlly these dogs are often fast enough to kill them anywhere. Believe me, the Fenland hares have been heavily coursed for over four decades and this is why, IMO, they are a superior athelete to many other hares. Some i have seen have been fliers. It's "natural selection" by running dog, only the very strongest survive. This is why the top lads , who have run everywhere, say that the bigger the land the better the hare. The saluki hybrid has some of the best feet you can get, IMO the higher % of saluki in the melting pot, the better its feet are. Not too long ago i watched a bitch course a hare down the full length of a gravel road. Road with stones and debris littering its length. After a good number of turns and wrenches on and off the road the hare was finally taken and i ran over to inspect the dogs feet. In my head i have visions of toe-carnage. But apart from a slight graze there was nothing. The dog went on to have further runs too that day. Now i do appreciate this thread is refering to scotland, but this was just an example of the toughness of a good saluki hybrids feet. I am also of the opinion that once a coursing dog gains experience and starts to run with its brain and only run as fast as it needsto, then it will do as good as the next dog on any terrain. I honestly think some need to get out a bit more, turn the PC off for a weekend and go and broaden their knowledge about certain types of running dogs. Theory and practice are two totally different animals. Just a few thoughts of mine. Good Hunting.JD the scottish lads are referring to triple wire fences,stone dyke walls ,thick high hedges and hares that are very well educated , due to the fact that us scotsmen do infact GET out there in the feild OFTEN. I have seen quite a few saluki drenched dogs not make the grade in this enviroment.no offence meant but as for turning off the pc mines was off and my dog WAS OUT TONIGHT ,WAS YOURS just an opinion of mine.atb Benny Quote Link to post
feed the bear 13 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Now i don't want to stir up the ashes but i really do wonder what people think a "fen dog" is. From the dogs i have seen that can kill hares on the Fens regularlly these dogs are often fast enough to kill them anywhere. Believe me, the Fenland hares have been heavily coursed for over four decades and this is why, IMO, they are a superior athelete to many other hares. Some i have seen have been fliers. It's "natural selection" by running dog, only the very strongest survive. This is why the top lads , who have run everywhere, say that the bigger the land the better the hare. The saluki hybrid has some of the best feet you can get, IMO the higher % of saluki in the melting pot, the better its feet are. Not too long ago i watched a bitch course a hare down the full length of a gravel road. Road with stones and debris littering its length. After a good number of turns and wrenches on and off the road the hare was finally taken and i ran over to inspect the dogs feet. In my head i have visions of toe-carnage. But apart from a slight graze there was nothing. The dog went on to have further runs too that day. Now i do appreciate this thread is refering to scotland, but this was just an example of the toughness of a good saluki hybrids feet. I am also of the opinion that once a coursing dog gains experience and starts to run with its brain and only run as fast as it needsto, then it will do as good as the next dog on any terrain. I honestly think some need to get out a bit more, turn the PC off for a weekend and go and broaden their knowledge about certain types of running dogs. Theory and practice are two totally different animals. Just a few thoughts of mine. Good Hunting.JD the scottish lads are referring to triple wire fences,stone dyke walls ,thick high hedges and hares that are very well educated , due to the fact that us scotsmen do infact GET out there in the feild OFTEN. I have seen quite a few saluki drenched dogs not make the grade in this enviroment.no offence meant but as for turning off the pc mines was off and my dog WAS OUT TONIGHT ,WAS YOURS just an opinion of mine.atb Benny My post was not aimed at you Bendrover. And just for the record i was out until 11.30 pm walking the fields. My little faithful friend at my side.... How is wilf these days??? Quote Link to post
feed the bear 13 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 feed the bear what dogs do you run and can your dogs kill hares on the land you think our dogs cant ????? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I sense your warming to the idea of old bear feeder here taking you out for a stroll on a frost moor ain't ya mate??? Don't you worry, I'll show you dogs catching on the ground before your precious ones get made an ars errrr get allowed to show their ability... BTW, don't worry about what I run mate, I ain't the one giving it large.... feed the bear i take u up on it .i will come and run you on your land best ov 3 or 4 then you come and run me on my land best of 3 or 4 . just out of intrest to see wat hapens . i run the big land boston sleford scuny exec pm me See what happens shadrack..... If all the challenges I've had come to frutation I'll need a morgage for the diesel alone lol. Quote Link to post
feed the bear 13 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 feed the bear what dogs do you run and can your dogs kill hares on the land you think our dogs cant ????? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I sense your warming to the idea of old bear feeder here taking you out for a stroll on a frost moor ain't ya mate??? Don't you worry, I'll show you dogs catching on the ground before your precious ones get made an ars errrr get allowed to show their ability... BTW, don't worry about what I run mate, I ain't the one giving it large.... yr a clown , when have i give it large about my dogs , i just stated that hares north of the border were easy , your the one giving it large lol That'll be a no then???..................... Quote Link to post
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