Ideation 8,216 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 "Since the banning in England, Wales and Scotland of hunting with hounds, wildlife managers have regrettably been forced to rely more heavily on the less humane methods of control namely snaring and shooting." "The majority of foxes culled in the UK are shot using a rifle. Wounding rates using a rifle can be up to 48% and for a shotgun as high as 60%. Killing rates increase but wounding rates do not decrease with the skill of the marksmen" "Hunting provides a vital search and dispatch system for detecting wounded and diseased animals in the countryside." "Shooting carries the substantial welfare problem of wounding. Up to 25% of hares may not be killed outright by shotguns on hare shoots, half of which may not be recovered even when well trained retrievers are used." "Hunting with hounds (beagles, bassets, and harriers) therefore provides an essential search and dispatch system for retrieving wounded animals following hare shoots. It also detects and dispatches other weak and diseased animals in direct relation to their degree of debility thereby helping to maintain the health and vigour of the population as a whole." "Foxes are major predators of hares but the expanding populations of badgers and large raptors such as buzzards and red kites, are also having an increasing impact on hare numbers. Hare numbers are often highest where coursing and hunting takes place since their habitat is conserved and foxes are controlled. Control of the other predators is presently illegal." The role of hunting in wildlife management "Hunting uniquely reproduces the natural selection process whereby weak and sick animals are culled in direct relation to their debility, thereby promoting the health and vigour of the species. Hunting leaves no wounded or damaged survivors. A balanced wild life population will not result from a 'hands off' approach. In the man-made countryside, control of an over-successful species is best achieved by a combination of legal methods undertaken by farmers, gamekeepers, landowners, naturalists and huntsmen, with their divergent interests using the appropriate methods of control for their particular circumstances. Hunting performs a vital search and dispatch function whereby the weak, the sick and the injured are discovered and quickly dispatched. No other method of culling performs this function and now that hunting is banned, the welfare situation for all hunted species is already worsening. Death in the wild, in the absence of natural predators and without hunting, involves pain, sepsis, gangrene, starvation, hypothermia, for days even weeks before death finally supervenes. Man has a responsibility to manage the countryside he has created and the wildlife populations therein. Laissez faire will not do!" There is a lot more . . . . . Quote Link to post
lofti 579 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 spot on have you got the rest of it? Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 http://www.vet-wildlifemanagement.org.uk/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=42 It's very well balanced and they are not really on either side of the fence so to speak . . . . Enjoy. Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 why doesnt this get in the papers?? when will people wake up hunting is natural we keep numbers controlled we dont exterminate we rely on game to be around so that we conserve our sport for the future Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 We're telling them that this years. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 why doesnt this get in the papers?? when will people wake up hunting is natural we keep numbers controlled we dont exterminate we rely on game to be around so that we conserve our sport for the future Sadly now this only only true for probably less than half of hunters. What ruins it is the idiots adding fuel for the antis. Quote Link to post
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 here here Quote Link to post
foxbasher 0 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 "Since the banning in England, Wales and Scotland of hunting with hounds, wildlife managers have regrettably been forced to rely more heavily on the less humane methods of control namely snaring and shooting." "The majority of foxes culled in the UK are shot using a rifle. Wounding rates using a rifle can be up to 48% and for a shotgun as high as 60%. Killing rates increase but wounding rates do not decrease with the skill of the marksmen" "Hunting provides a vital search and dispatch system for detecting wounded and diseased animals in the countryside." "Shooting carries the substantial welfare problem of wounding. Up to 25% of hares may not be killed outright by shotguns on hare shoots, half of which may not be recovered even when well trained retrievers are used." "Hunting with hounds (beagles, bassets, and harriers) therefore provides an essential search and dispatch system for retrieving wounded animals following hare shoots. It also detects and dispatches other weak and diseased animals in direct relation to their degree of debility thereby helping to maintain the health and vigour of the population as a whole." "Foxes are major predators of hares but the expanding populations of badgers and large raptors such as buzzards and red kites, are also having an increasing impact on hare numbers. Hare numbers are often highest where coursing and hunting takes place since their habitat is conserved and foxes are controlled. Control of the other predators is presently illegal." The role of hunting in wildlife management "Hunting uniquely reproduces the natural selection process whereby weak and sick animals are culled in direct relation to their debility, thereby promoting the health and vigour of the species. Hunting leaves no wounded or damaged survivors. A balanced wild life population will not result from a 'hands off' approach. In the man-made countryside, control of an over-successful species is best achieved by a combination of legal methods undertaken by farmers, gamekeepers, landowners, naturalists and huntsmen, with their divergent interests using the appropriate methods of control for their particular circumstances. Hunting performs a vital search and dispatch function whereby the weak, the sick and the injured are discovered and quickly dispatched. No other method of culling performs this function and now that hunting is banned, the welfare situation for all hunted species is already worsening. Death in the wild, in the absence of natural predators and without hunting, involves pain, sepsis, gangrene, starvation, hypothermia, for days even weeks before death finally supervenes. Man has a responsibility to manage the countryside he has created and the wildlife populations therein. Laissez faire will not do!" There is a lot more . . . . . First of all guys let me stress that im pro-hunting with dogs, but i cant believe 'wounding rates with a rifle can be up to 48%'. If someone's getting a wounding rate that high the t**t shouldnt be bloody shooting! I aint saying im a spot on marksman by a long shot (no pun intended ) but i can put my hand on heart and say ive only lost 2 foxes in hundreds shot. Anyway i genuinly hope this government see's sense and makes hunting legal again. Quote Link to post
jf1970 328 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 "Since the banning in England, Wales and Scotland of hunting with hounds, wildlife managers have regrettably been forced to rely more heavily on the less humane methods of control namely snaring and shooting." "The majority of foxes culled in the UK are shot using a rifle. Wounding rates using a rifle can be up to 48% and for a shotgun as high as 60%. Killing rates increase but wounding rates do not decrease with the skill of the marksmen" "Hunting provides a vital search and dispatch system for detecting wounded and diseased animals in the countryside." "Shooting carries the substantial welfare problem of wounding. Up to 25% of hares may not be killed outright by shotguns on hare shoots, half of which may not be recovered even when well trained retrievers are used." "Hunting with hounds (beagles, bassets, and harriers) therefore provides an essential search and dispatch system for retrieving wounded animals following hare shoots. It also detects and dispatches other weak and diseased animals in direct relation to their degree of debility thereby helping to maintain the health and vigour of the population as a whole." "Foxes are major predators of hares but the expanding populations of badgers and large raptors such as buzzards and red kites, are also having an increasing impact on hare numbers. Hare numbers are often highest where coursing and hunting takes place since their habitat is conserved and foxes are controlled. Control of the other predators is presently illegal." The role of hunting in wildlife management "Hunting uniquely reproduces the natural selection process whereby weak and sick animals are culled in direct relation to their debility, thereby promoting the health and vigour of the species. Hunting leaves no wounded or damaged survivors. A balanced wild life population will not result from a 'hands off' approach. In the man-made countryside, control of an over-successful species is best achieved by a combination of legal methods undertaken by farmers, gamekeepers, landowners, naturalists and huntsmen, with their divergent interests using the appropriate methods of control for their particular circumstances. Hunting performs a vital search and dispatch function whereby the weak, the sick and the injured are discovered and quickly dispatched. No other method of culling performs this function and now that hunting is banned, the welfare situation for all hunted species is already worsening. Death in the wild, in the absence of natural predators and without hunting, involves pain, sepsis, gangrene, starvation, hypothermia, for days even weeks before death finally supervenes. Man has a responsibility to manage the countryside he has created and the wildlife populations therein. Laissez faire will not do!" There is a lot more . . . . . First of all guys let me stress that im pro-hunting with dogs, but i cant believe 'wounding rates with a rifle can be up to 48%'. If someone's getting a wounding rate that high the t**t shouldnt be bloody shooting! I aint saying im a spot on marksman by a long shot (no pun intended ) but i can put my hand on heart and say ive only lost 2 foxes in hundreds shot. Anyway i genuinly hope this government see's sense and makes hunting legal again. i hope so ,but it's not very often the government say they got it wrong and revert back to the way it was.cheers......john Quote Link to post
foxbasher 0 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 If the new P.M. sticks to his word (yeah, i know you cant trust those politicians) he said they'd take a good look at changing the law as he said he was a 'country boy' that understands the importence of hunting. We shall see-fingers crossed. Quote Link to post
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