welshboy454 3 Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 I read on another forum the result of some pattern testing with steel shot. With No4 steel through an improved cylinder choke 93% were in a 30 inch circle at 30 yards- slightly better than 3/4 choke would give in lead. Anyone else pattern tested ? Quote Link to post
danebrewer10 6 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 yes... see here... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/166552-re-cartridges-for-duckgeese/ Quote Link to post
welshboy454 3 Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 yes... see here... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/166552-re-cartridges-for-duckgeese/ Thank you very much for sharing the data/pics. It confirms how larger steel shot forms a tighter pattern than lead. Your 1/4 choke seemed closer to 3/4 than 1/2 in performance terms. Quote Link to post
danebrewer10 6 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 yes... see here... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/166552-re-cartridges-for-duckgeese/ Thank you very much for sharing the data/pics. It confirms how larger steel shot forms a tighter pattern than lead. Your 1/4 choke seemed closer to 3/4 than 1/2 in performance terms. as in, steel patterns tighter for a given shot charge and size through the same choke?, Yes I had read about it but it was interesting to see it in the flesh. I don't know what lead 3s or 2s look like through my gun at 35m so I couldn't comment. an interesting test nontheless Quote Link to post
welshboy454 3 Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 yes... see here... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/166552-re-cartridges-for-duckgeese/ Thank you very much for sharing the data/pics. It confirms how larger steel shot forms a tighter pattern than lead. Your 1/4 choke seemed closer to 3/4 than 1/2 in performance terms. as in, steel patterns tighter for a given shot charge and size through the same choke?, Yes I had read about it but it was interesting to see it in the flesh. I don't know what lead 3s or 2s look like through my gun at 35m so I couldn't comment. an interesting test nontheless This is the data from another forum. Particularly interesting is the IC No4 shot steel pattern. Just for fun, lets see what the pattern board can show us about the difference in performance. I'll compare #8 lead with #7 steel loads and #7 1/2 lead with #6 steel loads since those are usually what I use when trying to duplicate pellet energy. Patterns were shot from a 12-gauge Browning Citori w/ 28" Invector-plus barrels using Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot scribed circle, yardage taped muzzle to target, and in-shell pellet count average of five). 30 YARDS Xpert Steel 2 3/4" 1 oz #7 steel (437 pellets) -- IC / 363 (83%) Sportsman Steel 2 3/4" 1 oz #7 steel (418 pellets) -- IC / 315 (75%) Win AA 2 3/4" 1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) -- IC / 305 (78%) 30 YARDS Xpert Steel 2 3/4" 1 oz #6 steel (306 pellets) -- IC / 261 (85%) Sportsman Steel 2 3/4" 1 oz #6 steel (314 pellets) -- IC / 252 (%) Win AA 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (377 pellets) -- IC / 324 (86%) Rem STS 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (408 pellets) -- IC / 328 (%) 40 YARDS Xpert Steel 2 3/4" 1 oz #7 steel (437 pellets) -- Mod / 286 (65%) Sportsman Steel 2 3/4" 1 oz #7 steel (418 pellets) -- Mod / 275 (66%) Win AA 2 3/4" 1 oz #8 lead (393 pellets) -- Mod / 292 (74%) 40 YARDS Xpert Steel 2 3/4" 1 oz #6 steel (306 pellets) -- Mod / 222 (73%) Sportsman Steel 2 3/4" 1 oz #6 steel (314 pellets) -- Mod / 210 (67%) Win AA 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (377 pellets) -- Mod / 285 (76%) Rem STS 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (408 pellets) -- Mod / 293 (72%) 40 YARDS Xpert Steel 2 3/4" 1 oz #6 steel (306 pellets) -- Full / 234 (76%) Sportsman Steel 2 3/4" 1 oz #6 steel (314 pellets) -- Full / 218 (69%) Win AA 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (377 pellets) -- Full / 299 (79%) Rem STS 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #7 ½ lead (408 pellets) -- Full / 321 (79%) Wait a minute, the steel loads didn't always pattern tighter (higher percentage) in these small pellet loads anyway. It looks like the smaller steel pellets (#7 and #6) act very much like quality lead pellets. When you get to the larger steel pellets, I think you start to see what most are talking about when they say that steel patterns tighter then lead. Here are a few more pattern numbers with the same gun and chokes to give you an idea of what larger steel pellets do. 30 YARDS Sportsman Steel 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #4 steel (218 pellets) -- IC / 202 (93%) Sportsman Steel 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #2 steel (139 pellets) -- IC / 129 (93%) 40 YARDS Sportsman Steel 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #4 steel (218 pellets) -- Mod / 159 (73%) Sportsman Steel 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz #2 steel (139 pellets) -- Mod / 114 (82%) The IC choke definately shot tighter patterns (higher percentages) with both the #4 and #2 steel loads than the small lead shot sizes did. In the Mod choke, the #4 steel load shot about the same as the others but the #2 steel load did shoot tighter. Draw your own conclusions if you like, but once again, if you don't take them to the pattern board you don't have any way of really knowing what they are doing! Quote Link to post
danebrewer10 6 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 huh, that's pretty interesting stuff.... Quote Link to post
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