CZ Rifles?

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Just been all over Google. All I'm getting is bloody US sites and fora, Talking about them. Yet my young mate was round here once and had a 'Guns Digest' sort of magazine with him. Big, thick thing with sections for every type of firearm. He showed me a full page ad' for the CZ's and there were some things to see there!

 

I never had the heart to whallow. But now I'm hoping to make things happen here and so dare to peek. First off, I'd like to look at pictures of the range and see what makes me excited - details can follow later!

 

Does anyone know where I might find a pin up gallery of these .22 Rimmies, please? On Line. Ta!

[Guest remmy]

  Ditch_Shitter said:

Just been all over Google. All I'm getting is bloody US sites and fora, Talking about them. Yet my young mate was round here once and had a 'Guns Digest' sort of magazine with him. Big, thick thing with sections for every type of firearm. He showed me a full page ad' for the CZ's and there were some things to see there!

 

I never had the heart to whallow. But now I'm hoping to make things happen here and so dare to peek. First off, I'd like to look at pictures of the range and see what makes me excited - details can follow later!

 

Does anyone know where I might find a pin up gallery of these .22 Rimmies, please? On Line. Ta!

its the most popular .22 rifle out mate, your gun shop should have a shelf full of them, rgds remmy.

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Cheers for that, mate. I'm sure he has too. Only my nearest gun shop's a county away. I don't drive. And it's sunday tomorrow. I'm gagging to have a good look at these, 'Most popular of rifles' and yet I can't find shots of the range of the buggers anywhere!

[Guest remmy]

  Ditch_Shitter said:

Cheers for that, mate. I'm sure he has too. Only my nearest gun shop's a county away. I don't drive. And it's sunday tomorrow. I'm gagging to have a good look at these, 'Most popular of rifles' and yet I can't find shots of the range of the buggers anywhere!

hold on i will get back to ya remmy.

 

 

i hope this helps you ,i am looking for a web site have a look at this for the mean time remmy.

 

here ditch shitter have a look at this one mate i hope you like what you see rgds remmy.

http://www.edgar-brothers.co.uk/ORIGINAL_SITE/html/home.html

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Aha! Now the Dog can see the rabbit!

 

Now then; That site isn't The clearest ..... But I definatly have the gut feeling of which one I'll be after now - style wise. And, funnily enough, it'll likely be that exact same beauty ye showing us there! Isn't that the " American " or " Varmint " model? (I couldn't decide which of those names applied to the ones on the site there). Only That's my favoured 'Look'.

 

Further; Whilst I'm listening in on all I can get to hear about 'Rifles' (I've only ever handled Air and Shotguns before now. I seriously haven't a clue yet), I can't help thinking that a straight foreward " .22 Rimmy " is, first and foremost, the rabbit weapon supreme ..... and can stop a fox - as Frank so often demonstrates.

 

Further; I hear talk of the " .22 Hornet " and then, if we want to really step it up; .222 and 223 calibres? Those two being more the Fox Rifles. IF I'm getting it right here? But a Hornet (or .22 Magnum ???) would, perhaps be the Fox Stopper(s) of choice, while remaining within the bounds of a " .22 " rifle. Yes?

 

Fact is; I have no rabbits around me and wouldn't shoot them if I had. I have hares, but f*ck touching them. Personal and Local thing No. I'm after a fox gun.

 

BUT: We have tiny fields here. Bordered by hedges and interlaced with tracks. It's a true work of art figuring out just where one may place a shot - of indefinate range, you understand? - and not have that shot heading for a track or dwelling, wether or not it could do anything if ut ever got there. I know the safe zones, don't worry about that. But, on principal, I wouldn't want any more 'Oomph' than is needed for the job.

 

Thus I'd Love a rifle capable of dropping a fox with a head shot at 100 yards. I don't want, eg. a .243's awesome capabilities. But 50 yard head shots? I just think I'd have to be a rather better Caller / Stalker than I am shot. I'm comfortable with my ability to put the lead where I need it. I just want to be comfortable that my weapon will do the trick, once it helps me get said lead there. And I want a more realistic range, without risking a cow in the next county. See where I'm coming from? Opinions? Anyone else got anything to say here?

 

[Guest Frank]

Mate, by the sound of it, a .22 magnum is what you need. But, for cheapness, you cant beat the .22lr in CZ, with parker hale mod, which is, as you know what i have.

 

If its going to be for foxes mainly, i would NOT go beyond 60yds and brain shots only.

If you can acchive this each time and get a clean kill, you will be happy as a sand boy.

 

But, as you might know, not many foxes come into that range, most hang out around 100yds or more, so a .22 Hornet would be the rifle for the job, up to 200yds max, zeroed 1 inch hight at 100 yds.

 

Have you got to know the fellas in your local gun club yet?

Makes good sense to try and join that first, as it will give you plenty of back up when you apply at your local garda station for you chosen firearm, along with at least 3 written permissions from farmers with foxes to shoot. Unless, you have land yourself and its freehold, in which case, it makes life a whole lot easier.

 

Good Luck,

 

Frank.

Edited December 12, 2006 by Frank

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Cheers for that, Frank! (Sorry, mate; Lost track of this Thread and now my connection's in and out like a fiddlers bloody elbow! Blowing a hooley out there!)

 

.22 Hornet is is then! Now ye mention it, one of the local guys had mentioned that, ages ago. I didn't know what he was talking about at the time so had sort of dismissed it

 

Now, pardon the ignorance / liberty, but; Am I right in thinking CZ do such a weapon? If so, I'll set my sails towards going for one!

 

Regards Gun Clubs? Total wash out, mate! Towns boys don't want to know. And, anyway, seems there is another little club, at the 'village' which is a mile or two closer to me. However, it's such a piss poor place to go to - two pubs (one a shit hole anyway - Very british upper class orientated!) and one Very expensive general store? I simply have no reason to go there and so wouldn't stand a cellophane rat in hells chance of getting 'in' with who ever they are.

 

No. Tons of permission's going to be my trump card, mate. That and my trade. I already have two farmers gagging to sighn me up. Couple of thousand acres between them. I'll ask them if they can rope me a neighbour in ~ make up the three or four large areas, look

 

No heated rush here, really. I need to sell my Lightning to help finance the gun cabinet. Then I may apply just for a .410 (cage despatch tool) and then go for the .22, few months down the line, once the Garda have had a chance to see how I don't go on drunken, armed rampages through the local town or blow away anyones prized cattle!

 

I'm just not like that, Frank. Honestly!

[irishhunter 0]

CZ do a few different models of a .22 hornet,great weapon

[lamperman 12]

why not get a sako quad then you can have 2.2 and 2.2 magnum in the same rifle

they are a bit more money than a cz but worth it

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Millet; This is the weird thing, mate. In UK I never would have dreamed of even applying. Why? Because - as ye'd know - trying to get 'Gun' permission in england is like trying to buy that winning lottery ticket. No One wants a stranger with a firearm on their land.

 

Over here? Jesus! People don't ask permission to wander across the land with a gun ~ they assume it! In fact, if ye don't put up signs, telling people Not to shoot over ye land ....? Crazy, huh?

 

So, I already have two Farmers who are just waiting for me to get out there and sort their problems out. Finding one or two more shouldn't be a problem

 

As regards my ability with a rifle? Heh. Let's just say; If I can perform, with a rimfire, like I did with my Lightning? I'll be able to take out what I'm aiming at! Of course, I'll practice on tin cans till I know what's what, before slipping out at night to inspect my - already worked out - kill zones.

 

That's what I like about rifles. I don't like shot guns because it's not natural to me. With a rifle ye get to Think before ye touch that trigger. And, once that high velocity, low flying projectile's on its way? There ain't no 'Edit' button! No taking it back. I like to be certain. That's what I like about rifle shooting; None of this wave and Bang! shit Ye get to weigh everything up. Relax. Consider. Double check. Commit.

 

Damn it! D'you know what? No one's ever before made me examine so closely what it is I like about rifles! But I guess that's it: It's probably the most Controlled form of hunting there is. No?

[Guest JohnGalway]

DS, don't know if anyones given you this website yet but it's from CZ themselves.

 

  Millet said:

will you be allowed to own a fire arm and will you ever get passed for a FAC certificate

 

As long as you're not a practising mass murderer or don't throw traffic cones at passing garda cars (in some cases even if you do :11: ) it's not too hard to get a rimmy or shottie licence in Ireland. Centrefires or exotic guns can run foul of the idon'tlikethelookodat/him rule but if you're decent and have your bits in order (stop sniggering down the back) it's fairly straightforward. I'm always cringing when reading about people in England appling for guns, the hoops they've to jump through .

[Guest Frank]

Their is no land clearence as yet over here. As John says, if your deemed sane and not a looney and have all your written permissions in order ect, then you have a good chance.

A gun club membership is very helpfull, but not written in law as yet.

 

The new firearms amendment bill, will be coming into effect next year and certain class of firearms, will be restricted, including .223s, pistols, any high powerd stalking rifle, ect.

 

Also, gun safes and moniterd alarm systems, will be compulsary, keep that in mind if you apply for any firearm.

 

All your background will also be checked, including, giving the powers to the garda, to delve into your medical records, not done before, but when the bill comes into effect, things will get tight im affaraid.

 

Frank.

Edited December 14, 2006 by Frank

[Nobby 65]

Have a look on here ditch there's a few to look at http://www.guntrader.co.uk/

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Cheers, Frank and Nobby. Thanks, Millet

 

So; I stand to pick up a CZ for 100 -300. A shot gun could actually set me back quite considerably more, eh? Crazy!

 

Fact is, as mentioned above, I'm not comfortable with shot guns. Had them before. Used them like rifles. Pointed them, rather than swung them. I only wanted a .410 for close up despatch work. I'm thinking sod the shot gun, for now. Concentrate on getting the rifle.

 

Ok. May we bend this Thread a little, please? How about cabinets for a 'scoped rifle? I checked out Brattonsound and they appear to do the sort of real cabinets I'd demand. Like, over here, the local Builders Merchants carries 'Gun Cabinets'. No more than f*cking tea room lockers! The Garda might accept them. I wouldn't.

 

However, BS only seem to make 'scoped rifle models once ye looking at housing four or five weapons?! Jesus! Max I need is three. I'd really like to find a Good quality, Secure gun safe for two longs. But deep enough to hold a 'scoped rifle.

 

Ok. Now I obviously have some experianced Riflemen reading here. What's the craic, please, lads? Anyone point me anywhere, please? Find my target and I'll start working on selling my own BSA Lightning and rig to help finance that quality safe for my .22.

[Guest Frank]

The safe you mentioned sounds just fine DS.

 

I have a infac, pretty good, that is also made for scoped rifles.

 

Best of luck,

 

Frank.